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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Eh... "Robin Li says increased accuracy is one of the largest improvements we've seen in Artificial Intelligence. "I think over the past 18 months, that problem has pretty much been solved—meaning when you talk to a chatbot, a frontier model-based chatbot, you can basically trust the answer," the CEO added."

That's plain wrong. Even STOA black box chatbots give wrong answer to the simplest of questions sometimes. That's precisely what NOT being able to trust mean.

How can one believe anything this person is saying?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

To trust a computer it has to be correct 100% of the time, because it can't say "I don't know".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It will probably burst, but that does not man that AI will go away completly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Same thing happened to the Dot Com bubble. The fundamental technology has valid uses, but we're in the stage where some people are convinced it can be used for literally anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It will burst because no one is going to pay subscription fee for every AI gizmo every app puts in your phone. The way they make any money now is just funneling more and more vc money in exchange of AGI promise (coming soon)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The AI bubble might be the 2020s' dotcom bubble.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Crossing fingers it bursts soon

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

If you're invested in these stocks, make sure you have your stop loss orders in place, 100%.

I imagine the bubble bursting will be quick and deadly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

What are the AI rising stocks?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Set stop loss at 100%, got it 👍

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Just to b sure, I'm going to set mine at 200%, to be double sure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, AI is really just a surveillance tool than anything else.

When AI "creates" something, it's just pulling up things related to words you typed in and making an amalgamation of what you typed in out of what it has.

The real purpose is for corporations and governments to look through people's devices and online storage at super speed.

this is why you all need to be using end-to-end encrypted storage for everything and VPNs with perfect forward secrecy

do your own research into the history of each provider of those things before you buy it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

There is so much wrong with this...

AI is a range of technologies. So yes, you can make surveillance with it, just like you can with a computer program like a virus. But obviously not all computer programs are viruses nor exist for surveillance. What a weird generalization. AI is used extensively in medical research, so your life might literally be saved by it one day.

You're most likely talking about "Chat Control", which is a controversial EU proposal to use scan either on people's devices or from provider's ends for dangerous and illegal content like CSAM. This is obviously a dystopian way to achieve that as it sacrifices literally everyone's privacy to do it, and there is plenty to be said about that without randomly dragging AI into that. You can do this scanning without AI as well, and it doesn't change anything about how dystopian it would be.

You should be using end to end regardless, and a VPN is a good investment for making your traffic harder to discern, but if Chat Control is passed to operate on the device level you are kind of boned without circumventing this software, which would potentially be outlawed or made very difficult. It's clear on it's own that Chat Control is a bad thing, you don't need some kind of conspiracy theory about 'the true purpose of AI' to see that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

They couldn’t keep their heads on fucking straight during the .com bubble, and here they are doing it all over again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

It's a lead bubble

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago

Please please please please please please please please

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Always invest in the spades never the gold mine

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I went to a AI conference and you can just sense how bogus it all feels. Like "Our patent pending AI system references billions of crowd-sourced data points to identify what you are craving for breakfast! Never think about breakfast again!"

And as a engineer speaking with other engineers, we all collectively shrug and just keep taking the money. I'll AI your toaster for enough money IDGAF.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's why Nvidia is making bank right now

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

People look at the advertising for this shit (and future tech-bro shit) and wonder, "who is this for"? Remember E.L.O.N. Exaggerated Lies Overlooked Narratives

Think of every manager and boss you've ever had. They don't think, they just do. Salesmen convince them using issues that don't exist, to sell solutions that don't really work, to people that don't understand how to use them. Repeat over 70 years and you have the modern American education system.

Now things are different. Money is scarce, things are getting tight. Tech-Bros have changed from a mildly infuriating strategy, to a downright abusive one. These simple minded managers think everything is under attack, and the only solution is what they already have, but heavily monetized and completely unusable.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Yeah, but the 0.1% remaining will take over the world.

Does anyone remember the era when there were a million search engines? Google didn't spawn alone.

Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

People are trying to vindicate their dislike of AI, pointing to trends like this as if it were supporting evidence. But saying "AI is going to be a big flop because 99% of companies today will end up failing" is as stupid as saying "online shopping will never work because 99% of online stores will close by the year 2010"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

.com websites didn't disappear after the dotcom bubble burst either. AI is definitely in a massive bubble right now, but something being in a bubble doesn't mean it's going to vanish completely. The AI companies with some substance backing them will weather the upcoming storm.

Full disclosure: I don't hate AI, but I hate that management-types are fellating themselves to the idea of it or the things than it can potentially do, rather than something that is providing them some kind of concrete benefit right now. I'm also mad at consumers for being stupid little sheep and paying a premium for anything that companies just happen to slap an "AI-powered" sticker on. It's like organic produce 2.0 - you have to have it, but we can't explain why, nor can we elaborate on what it does better than it's contemporary.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

Fun fact: the first online store still exists. It's Pizza Hut. They launched an experiment for online ordering in 1994. The first company to ever sell a product on the web.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No one actually thought that they were a good idea it was just a bunch of con artists. It was a bubble for sure but it was an entirely artificially created one. There was no real business behind any of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that this current AI bubble is artificially created by a different type of conmen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but in fairness the AI actually does work. You can actually use the AI to achieve things I've never seen anybody achieve anything beneficial with NFTs

My argument really being that there is a potential for real benefit with AI in a way that never existed for made-up digital scarcity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I totally agree with you and once dudes with dollar signs in their eyes stop with craming it in toasters I will be very happy to see where the tech goes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago

No shit.

Like all new technologies, there is a time when bunches of companies jump on the band wagon to get in on the action. You can see it all throughout the history of the industrial revolution.

They mostly know that there will come a great weeding out of those that can't handle the technology or just fail from poor management. But they are betting they will be among the 1% that wins the race and remain to dominate the market.

The rest will just bide their time until the next Big Thing comes along. And the process starts over again.

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