And both are fascist shitheads too! Who would have guessed?
this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2024
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For the folks wanting to try something along the lines of "how is it illegal?!"
It's not the signing a document that supports 1A and 2A. That's not the illegal part. It's the requiring being a registered voter and having a lotto with cash money attached to it. Musk is perfectly fine to have a lotto for people who support 1A and 2A and want to sign a document saying so. He just can't attach "you must be a registered voter" to those terms and conditions, that's the part that makes it illegal.
All the other parts, if that's how he wants to blow his money. That's his money. But he just can't attach that one term to that process. Likely is that someone will ask him to drop the term and leave it at that. But if Musk starts being a penis about well then yeah, it's a Federal law and can be made messy if folks don't want to comply. It's likely why he's pulling this, this close to election day, figures that no AG would get it in front of a Judge fast enough. But I mean, get an AG angry enough, they can start making things happen on a faster time scale.
But yeah, there's not really a question about what Musk is doing if it's illegal or not. It's very much not legal. But the ramifications are likely for the State AG to ask Musk to drop that condition or get yanked in front of a Judge.
All the other parts, if that’s how he wants to blow his money. That’s his money.
Foreign nationals interfering in elections with ill-gotten gains?
One political party: I see nothing wrong with this.
At least cards against humanity is doing it too
Did we forget the Cards Against Humanity group?
They aren't offering a "million dollar/day" lottery to anyone who signs their petition.
Have you read their schtick? $100 to swing state voters who jump through some hoops. You can parse that however you like, but they're buying votes for the blue team.
Yes, but musk started doing that at $47, then they one uped him to $100 while being very explicit how fucked up it is that they can do this, and now hes one uped them to $100 plus 1 million/day lottery until the election for Pennsylvania voters that sign it. He already gave 1 million away at his recent solo rally.
Musk started this shit and escalated it.
Glad to see you agree with me.
Agree that cards against humanity, in direct response to Musk's action, are using donations to point out how fucked up it is that the richest man in the US is trying to buy votes? Yes.
Agree that musk escalated his attempt to buy votes again? Yes.
Musk is paying people to sign a petition. How is that any different from what CAH is doing?
If Musks behavior is shitty, then CAH behavior is equally shitty. If CAH behavior is not shitty, then Musk's behavior is not shitty.
I'm not sure if you're obtuse or trolling, but here we go:
Party A, a shithead trying to buy votes in a way that is unique in our democracy, does shitty behavior.
Party B, a group of satirists and comedians, doubles down and repeats the shitty behavior while jumping up and down with cymbals and horns, calling out the person who started it and the fact that it may not be illegal. Party B is engaged in performance art to raise an issue.
Party A then escalates the shitty behavior with more money and a new lottery twist. This escalates the shittiness to new levels, hereto unseen in our nations history.
Party B, the satirists, having made their point initially, do not engage in any new satire.
Clear? The person who starts doing something shitty and then makes it shittier is indeed shittier than the people outright mocking that behavior by imitating it and loudly shouting about how shitty it is.
Put another way:
Nazis marching down a street and chanting are shitty. Clowns, playing tubas and doing cartwheels in makeup around the Nazis to make them look even more stupid, are not shitty even though they too are marching and making noise.
Intent matters. Musks is to steal an election through outright bribery. CAH intent is to raise the profile of this bribery, to make it an issue that has to be addressed.
Hadn't read their schpeal eh? They may be motivated against trump but they are literally telling people to vote.
And paying them!