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YSK: Google is Killing uBlock Origin. No Chromium Browser is Safe. (www.quippd.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Google is weakening ad blockers as part of their MV3 extension standard and this will trickle down into all Chromium browsers. Built in ad blockers lack features compared to uBlock Origin as well.

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[–] [email protected] 198 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Dammit, Sam. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago

Who is the Lemmy user not aware of this? Show yourself!

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Google is not killing uBlock Origin. It's changing how Chrome works. uBlock Origin will continue to work in my Firefox and other browsers.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're changing how chrome works... ...in a way that just coincidentally makes ad blockers a lot less functional.

They're an advertising company, no conflict of interest there at all

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a shit take. Manifest v3 is like activex. As of right now, it shuts down extensions they don’t want. Going forward, it sets up a system for extensions that are publisher-approved. When internet explorer took over the market I could still use Netscape until I couldn’t. I’m hoping Firefox doesn’t reach the same end

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (30 children)

LMAO welcome to Firefox, the objectively better Browser. Might also use a custom search engine or DDG while at it.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Firefox and its other forks are the best option right now

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago

Has been for as long as I can remember.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

Duh, Firefox. This is not a problem.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Great, they're going to make browser exclusive content. Locked down even worse than it is. Intentional, not just lazy incompatibilities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

I've recently switched to FF as my main browser, but I still need Chrome for some work things. And some people will want to stay on Chrome. So for them, this IS a problem.

Just dismissing it because other browsers exist isn't helpful.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Yes it is. It's not some unobtainable solution like you need to give 1/10 of your pay or giving away your freedom. It's easy, free and almost painless solution that will solve your problems. You can't try to cure your lung cancer and continue smoking.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Usually I sympathize with sentiments like this ("people use X because of uncontrolled circumstances"), but browsers are not one of them.

If you have a website that requires the use of Chrome, then just use Chrome for that website! It's not an either-or thing -- you can install both browsers and use Firefox as the primary one.

And some people will want to stay on Chrome.

And that's what makes this statement so problematic. You don't earn anything by staying exclusively on Chrome, when both it and Firefox can work alongside each other.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Make no mistake, what Google is doing is absolutely dangerous. Malvertisements are definitely a thing. Back in 2010, I got a virus from an ad on a meme site that just went through and trashed my hard drive.

It's unfortunate that there are use cases out there where Chrome is absolutely required. Firefox can't display large directories, for instance. It'll lock up while chromium browsers work fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

If you have examples, maybe you can report it on their issue tracker? I wish the browser had built-in ways to report problems like how amd's bug reporter works

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Now introducing Enshittium Browser ad diarrhea flows freely

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I should market this idea, maybe polish up the slogan. I will pay all users half of the ad revenue, which they can see tick up on their browser...

Then it will be super invasive and vacuum up as much user data as possible, but not mention it to the users, so they don't think to quantify it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago

I know that ploum blog post gets cited way too often on Lemmy, but this is a situation where I think Google has either intentionally or inadvertently executed a variation of the "embrace, extend, extinguish" playbook that Microsoft created.

They embraced open source, extended it until they've practically cornered the market on browser engine, and now they are using that position to extinguish our ability to control our browsing experience.

I know they are facing a possibly "break up" with the latest ruling against them.

It would be interesting to see if they force divestiture of chrome from the ad business. The incentives are perverse when you do both with such dominance and its a massive conflict of interest.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm laughing at myself right now. I keep wishing people would switch to more progressive politics when people cannot even switch to a free piece of software with zero drawbacks even when their software starts blocking other software they use.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Highly recommend setting up a PiHole. It may not be quite as comprehensive as uBlock, but it cuts the ads way down, and it's not something that browsers can easily bypass. You do have to make sure to shut of DNS over HTTPS, or setup a separate solution for that to tunnel into PiHole.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Fuck Google.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Vivaldi (and Brave I think) are safe until July 2025.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any chromium browser is with a flag enabled.

Just switch to Firefox or a derivative already guys.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

LibreWolf or mullvad browser both FF based.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Safe until" = not safe

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Gonna stick with Vivaldi until its last breath, love this browser

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I switched to Firefox about a month ago for personal use. It's nearly impossible for me to quit using Chrome, though, due to work.

I don't hate Firefox, but it does absolutely do some stupid shit that I don't like.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (17 children)

What kind of stuff?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

As someone who uses Vivaldi, which has a significant number of power user and customization features, the fact this is no longer a thing is fucking bonkers to me

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compact-mode-workaround-firefox#:~:text=Firefox%20Last%20updated:%206/6,https://mzl.la/3JM0ViX

I can turn on an unsupported flag to make the UI a little cleaner for me

To me, it’s wild that the browser for the user decided to deprecate an option like that. Since they dropped XUL support I have very few options on customizing my browser outside of a theme or just writing my own CSS

From there, I’d just point to:

https://vivaldi.com/features/

Firefox pulls in like 500 million dollars a year from Google. Barely any of those features exist in Firefox

I started with Firefox. I used it from day one, when it was an experiment coming out of the Mozilla suite.

I want to use it day to day so bad

But it’s become “how do we chase chrome”

And occasionally they get wins like this. And it no longer feels like

“How can we be best?”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

You can customize the Firefox UI with CSS, if you're looking for really advanced customization capabilities.
I've made a one-line theme as my 'compact' mode of choice, where URL bar and tabs are all on one row, but you can find lots of pre-made themes out there.
See [email protected] for more info and help.

And well, you shouldn't compare Firefox and Vivaldi from a monetary side.
Mozilla develops their own browser engine, which is really important for the web, whereas Vivaldi only really develops that customizable UI. If Google stops publishing the source code of Chromium, Vivaldi is dead in a few months.