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Don't say, hey android has Linux in it, yeah no, idc, I want to know how far we are from buying a Linux phone at a price point of 200 USD.

A Linux phone is one which is built completely on Linux, uses Linux apps and most important has a terminal.

I don't want a Linux Phone for privacy, although that's a great reason, but I want it for the freedom it provides me. Hell, I don't care if Android itself comes with a terminal and has similar features to Linux, I just want a Terminal which can install apps, where I can write commands and it will execute it. Complete Control on my phone and how it behaves is what I want.

I want to tell it when to sleep, when not to sleep, when to boot, when to edit a file and how, when to take a screenshot and what to do with it and where to save it, etc, etc. I hope you get the idea.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have a feeling those budget phones around that price are sold at a loss and gain the money from selling user data. So I doubt it'd get down to that price

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. You have your pine phone. It's more expensive than you'd like. But if if and only if enough people adopt it. Prices will come down with time

Since you don't want anybody to tell you that Android is Linux, and you can do everything you want to do on Android with a custom ROM. I won't mention it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Android with a custom ROM. I won’t mention it

do you know of any projects which has good support (and reputation) which has something like a terminal in it? I mean, I just want a terminal.

Also, I will be happy to spend 500USD on a Linux phone just to support it, but I wanted to know how far they are. Thank you for your comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before the rise of Android and ios I'd have said it was possible, but the goal posts have shifted pretty far. Unless something backed by a corporate entity or government rises Up, it's a no. A chromeos type thing for smartphone is not going to happen for mass market, because there is already Android.

Discounting Android, the last mile of what a smartphone is capable of can not be accomplished in Foss manner, without end to end verified OS images and some kind of secure enclave for banking and "security" features, carriers and banks are not going to get on board any more. Convenience features like DRM video streaming, casting also probably are not achievable either

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We do banking with general purpose computers. How do you figure banking will be a sticking point?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things like androidpay/apple pay type functions require a chain of security checks, on Android it's levels of safety net. some banking apps require similar

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Ive been on Graphene OS for a few months now and can confirm that banking apps work, but Google Wallet does not. One of my banking apps required me to toggle off hardened malloc in favor of Android's standard malloc though, which definitely had me raising an eyebrow.