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Getting fired felt like a possibility but never a reality
...tech people never fail to amaze me in their misty-eyed views of the companies they work for.
It's still disgusting and obviously an attempt to stifle dissent in the ranks, but like, firing someone for stuff like this is so common in the world that you have to be pretty naive to think it wasn't a reality and to prepare for it accordingly when you planned your sit-in.
Tech workers need unions so badly for reasons exactly like this.
The biggest problem is tech workers tend to not be social and feel elitest. I know, I've been in the business 25+ years. You also have a lot of older folks poisoned against unions by politicians and the media. Building a tech union at this big companies is an uphill battle.
Can't expect people to do something they don't think they need.
It's a very fat industry. When (due to big fish failing, anti-monopoly activities, new systems, revolutions and nuclear wars) it finally becomes normal, there will be unions.
Another symptom of extremely silo'd educations. As someone in a STEM field who took a couple years extra to graduate because they didn't declare a major for two years, I see this shit constantly. Clearly, very intelligent people who have been once again let down by our education system, but this time at the University level.
To the point where I will probably get downvotes and angry replies about how learning that other stuff is useless. But I can tell you that it's absolutely not. I'm an engineer, and "Logic and Language" is still, by far, the most important course I've ever taken..
Tech types are very often libertarian minded.
Swing and a miss
No? Higher levels of education are generally correlated with more liberal attitudes. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/
Unless that's not what you meant, or I am missing something?
Being Liberal is not the same as being an American Libertarian. The latter thinks tax is theft and has diverse views on whether children should be regarded as property under the law.
I don't think even being in a union would help you there, unless you got the entire union on board.
I also don't understand why you'd even want to work for a company whose work you feel so strongly against.
Every few months a news story: "Google workers in revolt over XYZ". Then nothing changes. Not really a worker's revolt then.
look into how a majority of their workers are H1B workers and why they cant speak up politically.
Yeah it's sad. I mean it's good, in a way that more people are aware of Nimbus now, but at the same time: nothing changes and some good people get fired over it, discouraging others to act in good faith for what they stand for.
I didn't know about Nimbus. I remember having read something about Google+Israel in the past, but didn't realize they were on board now.
All in all, fuck Google, again.
Actual headlines should be “Google workers in revolt over XYZ but too afraid of losing their 6 figure salaries to do anything meaningful about it”
At one point in the pandemic I worked for a sizeable tech company that was similar. They sent out an Zionism apologist email about how much the company supports Israel. STFU! We are the company, you wouldn't have shit if we didn't come to work. I know my colleagues well enough to know they are mostly NOT Neocons and Zionists. I was pretty pissed that they would say something political because it throws me into the position of having to address it because the "we" they used in the email makes it sound like I'm involved. I just work here. I don't want any part of your corporate politics and I want you to know that when we seize the means of production (and your ill-begotton fruits of others labor) we're gonna donate your yachts and bank accounts to help victims of Zionism and Imperialism.
It's early morning, and Zelda Montes walks briskly through the crisp New York air as they head to Google's headquarters on Manhattan’s 9th Avenue.
Oh my god, why put in a topic about serious matter all that fancy decorum? I immediately see a man with a bun, typing this topic in a café, not caring a single shit about real people behind the text.
The description seems primed to generate the opposite reaction from the opposite sides of the political divide based on the reaction to the NB, coloured hair, and breakfast choice.
If I had to guess it's meant to evoke relatability for Googlers.
I liked it because it highlights the comfortable world of the people abetting in the Genocide, in contrast to those suffering from it.
There is a lot to gain for those who do not suffer from morals.
IBM : Nazi Party :: Google : IDF
https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/235_no_tech_for_apartheid_w_mohammad_khatami__gabi_schubiner
Would it be more effective to sabotage your own work in such a place?
That could get you in worse trouble than just getting fired.
Everyone makes mistakes. I know what my mistakes look like in general, and have the self awareness for plausible deniability. I'm not all that bright, so I assume someone in this position is more skilled and capable than I.
Depends on how many people are willing to take a stand simultaneously and how replaceable they are.
Similar to a union strike if enough people stop working the employer has no option but to cave in to the demands.
But the initial wave is usually the one meeting the most resistance when most people in a group aren't even open to an idea. It takes brave people who are willing to take the initial stand when it's still uncomfortable to do so.
another reason to leave google
Anyone in tech who knowingly works for Google supports these things in the same way that anyone that works in tech who knowingly works for Meta support genocide and the erosion of the democratic process. I give the caveat “in tech” because there are some roles like content moderation or executive assistant where you really don’t have the luxury of a huge market working almost anywhere else that doesn’t support genocide and I don’t fault those faults for taking a job that has better benefits. My engineering peers? I judge them for it.
Give me a fucking job then.
I've been trying to get the fuck out of the DoD for years. No one fucking wants me. I'm so tired of trying. Fuck. I've been writing software since I was twelve and the most they let me do is automate software installs with fucking powershell ADT. Fucking poweshell, a god-damned toy language, and I don't even get to write it myself.
No one wants to hire me and I hate it.
Fuck yes. It is not enough to boycott companies with your money. You must also do so with your labor. Thank you for making a carve out exception for the little people in the picture. It would be better if they could withhold their labor as well, but many of the lowest in companies simply cannot afford to work somewhere else for less pay. As you pointed out, the engineers truly can take a pay cut and survive. Thank you for sharing your likely-to-be unpopular opinion.
Didn't this happen months ago? They did a sit-in to whistleblow against Google supporting genocide, and got fired and arrested as soon as HR could process the afortmentioned firing
Daddy gonna make a list for the next round of lay-offs lol
I hope this people understand what they are doing but with google comp if they saved, they will be fine. Maybe a good time get that severance and look for another job.
Tech and politics always a winning combination
