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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That clock placement is giving me anxiety

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

what's there to not like about ~7:40PM~?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's probably one of the updates

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The clock updates every minute.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't updated it in years for fear of this Y2K issue. What's ahead for me guys?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yolo, friend. yolo.

what packaging system?

[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Duct tape and baling wire, perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Strapping tape and cardboard is way cleaner.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

don't forget the spit! pulls everything together nicely - lubricates, seals and protects.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Average rolling release distro user experience

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 weeks ago

Just think of all the great things you're going to learn about emergency boot recovery!

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Side note: "I'mma" is a contraction of the whole phrase "I'm going to" or "I'm about to" so it's followed immediately by the verb indicating what you'll be doing:

"I'mma rawdog this sucker without backups."

Yes, I added sucker, because it's going to suck up all your time and data, sucka!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Op should have used "I'm finna rawdog this jawn no backup style"

For no reason other than mixed US slang from different regions sounds funnier to my ear

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

"no backup style" hits just right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve always thought of it as I am gonna

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's the lightly slangy version I would normally use, but as long as I was being pedantic I thought I'd better avoid any contractions in that part.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago

Just do a fresh install man. I'm getting anxiety just by looking at it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If forgetting/not wanting to update puts you in this hole, like… ever, you should really give an atomic distro some serious consideration.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Say more please? What's the advantage?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The system files aren't writable, instead you download a new system image when you want to update. No dependency hell or weird issues because these system images are all tested. Your system also keeps one or two old ones around and if by some chance something does go wrong you just select the old one at boot.

Downside is you're more limited on installing software. You can force install things the traditional way but that kinda defeats the point. Instead you have to use things like FlatPak or AppImages which covers most GUI apps you could want. For command line apps you will have to use something like DistroBox.

It's a trade off but for casual desktop users it is super stable and pretty simple. Updates come out daily (depending on distro) and they just get all their software from the software center app with a nice GUI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You can do gui apps too! I used distrobox to run WebEx on an Ubuntu image for an interview. Just had to get to the actual binary to launch and it worked seamlessly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Right but if there is a FlatPak, that's usually the easier option

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

(correct me if I'm wrong, I'm also new at this)

There are two partitions. One with the current system, one with the previous system. Updates are applied in a whole batch at once, once in a while.

Current system is cloned into the old one and an update is applied to the clone.

Once the update is complete, system reboots in the clone, and what was the current system becomes the previous one.

If something goes bad, you can reboot into the previous system and fix the clone.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I know its a meme but nixos is actually good for this. You can be on the unstable branch, not update for 5 years and still get everything working after updating(tho i dont recommend because of security). I think nixos has some fucking AMAZING features but the problem is its paired with features that make it extremely hard to use for a casual user.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I've updated an Arch install after not being used for 2 years. I don't think there were any issues.

I've experienced far more issues upgrading to a new major release of an apt based distro though...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

what did you do to that poor oldstable, you, you... monster!?!!?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That apt based distro was Ubuntu, wasn't it?
I never successfully upgraded that from one release to the next.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

It's my experience that Ubuntu and Fedora break if you don't upgrade often (and then suddenly do after a year), while arch doesn't... Which is interesting, since it's supposed to be the other way around...

I think it's because Fedora and Ubuntu add a lot of new things, while arch just updates it's packages.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

It's been an hour, I think OP didn't make it!!!!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Op, it's been an entire day... How'd did it go?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe I'm just screaming into the void here, but does it seem like, as a person who is still relatively out of touch with linux, I don't necessarily have to update my Arch distribution whenever there are new updates available? I could theoretically just go on downloading new programs, uninstalling old ones, using everything as it sits until theoretically something breaks?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

You'll run into security and stability problems if you put it off for too long.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

I don't necessarily have to update my Arch distribution whenever there are new updates available

Clearly, op agrees

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You should always run a full upgrade when installing a new package to make sure your versions are all in sync. Like if your new package is looking for version 1.1 and you have 1.0 installed, the new package won't work. In general, everything should be installed with 'pacman -Syu' not just 'pacman -S'

If you don't install any new packages, then no you don't need to upgrade anything. You're just missing out on security patches and upgraded features. It's worth running occasional upgrades.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And they were never heard from AGAIN! Oooooooo It is horror month, and that's pretty scary! :-D

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't try to install Arch after midnight.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And that is why I use Opensuse tumbleweed, no worries ever (zypper takes a snapshot before and after each upgrade, single command to roll back)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not to mention that a two or three thousand package update is rookie numbers for zypper.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Thoughts and prayers fren

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Praying for your computer, friend

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

@[email protected] it’s been 8 hours, did you make it?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

At that point I'd just backup my data and do a fresh install - would probably take less time too

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Becareful with glibc

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