AI whatever but nuclear yes pls
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Dystopisn technocracy shit
This is exactly what I've been advocating for. Nuclear power, especially if they lift the restrictions on fuel recycling, is the cleanest option we have besides solar and wind, and it's a technology that is fully developed and available now. Nuclear power is heavily regulated and is very safe these days, and is not reliant on rare earth metals like many solar panels still are.
You've been advocating for pointlessly wasting the output of an entire nuclear power plant during a time when an urgent decarbonization of energy is needed, to fuel the energy needs of a corporate monopoly running server farms providing a technology that's neither wanted or needed outside of niche use cases, following an online hype mixed with scams and rugpull startups that rival crypto's heydey?
My original idea was for the AI companies to shell out for building new nuclear plants, but bringing an old one back online is a step in the right direction. I don't think the current "AI" projects are actually worth the resources they consume, but if they're going to exist, their creators should be shelling out for non-fossil fuel options to power them.
a yes, it's going to be so fun when enshittification hits the power plant and it start leaking radioactive water in the lake
Edit: my issue is with tech companies owning power plants, be it nuclear, oil or gas, enshittification cold fuck all of them and cause catastrophic damage, other than that nuclear power is based
Safest power source per kWh. This is some boomer-ass scare mongering.
I don't fear nuclear power, i fear tech companies especially those public
Are you under the impression Microsoft will be running it themselves? I don't get it.
The power being used to train AI models = an AI is who's going to run the power plant.
I guess??
Is the problem nuclear? Or the problem the fact that Microsoft AI bullshit needs a full ass nuclear power plant to run it?
Read the comment I replied to.
No, sorry, those were rhetorical questions. I apologize, you're 100% correct.
Ahh gochya.
I mean, I get why people scoff at it. But look at it from their perspective.
They're getting heat for all the energy LLMs use. The natural response is to buy carbon free energy and good on them for taking that step, frankly.
If they've got to to it... this is probably the better than most ways they could be doing it I suppose.
I'm usually on the lookout for carbon offsets when companies "pledge" to reduce carbon but those are bullshit.
This though? Pretty kick ass.
They could just burn coal/oil/natural gas instead and for sure poison everything that way. Nuclear has a fighting chance.
As opposed to all the other non renewable sources of power cause cancer to those who live near by
oil spills too
Don't give power plants to tech companies period lol, at least software can't fuck as many people and the environment as an oil or radioactive leak could
Cool and normal.
I mean... yeah this clearly sucks ass, but as a silver lining, maybe it'll rebuild interest in nuclear.
If they want to run AI in a responsible manner I can't say that I really have any solid complaints. I prefer if they don't use it to train my entire personality into a model but it is what it is
I don't want old ass nuclear power plants. I don't want new power plants in 25 years either. I want a solar panel on every single rooftop, and diversified municipal energy storage (batteries, molten salt, geothermal, etc).
Old ass nuclear plants work well, and they are already built. I also want solar panels on every house, and micro turbines in every yard. How about we work with what we already know is clean and expand with new technology.
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It is new... They aren't the original ones that were decommissioned...
Why can corporations own nuclear plants? Aren't they people? Can I own a nuclear plant? Or am I just stuck building additional pylons?
AFAIK, There's nothing that says you can't make your own nuclear power plant. Just stuff forbidding you from obtaining nuclear material. Which would make it hard to operate a power plant. But you could still make one that doesn't do anything!
Reminds me of this dude that tried to make a reactor out of americium from smoke detectors.
Strictly speaking, anyone can apply for a license to build a plant but you do need a license. The whole thing is pretty regulated.
The whole thing is pretty regulated.
I feel like that's probably a good thing.
It's stifles innovation.
/s
Most nuclear plants are owned by corporations. Before the accident, Three Mile Island was owned and operated by Constellation Energy (now Constellation Nuclear) and EnergySolutions.
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I can't wait for this AI bubble to pop.
I'm not saying that some parts of AI have utility - machine learning for medical scans will be a great thing for instance, but the "oooh new! shiny! venture capitalist, line-must-go-up" side of things can well and truly fuck off.
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What a waste of power. Somehow they went from "we're green tech!" to "fuck it, we need ALL the power" real quick. And for nothing.
Nuclear is green
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