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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m glad he and his wife shut the fuck up about music censorship and made being environmentally conscious his thing now, but I still don’t forgive them for it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i view it as everyone is wrong about shit sometimes. the real problems arise when you're wrong, powerful, and unwilling to be flexible

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. I just have a real big problem with Tipper Gore sending the FBI to wreck up Jello Biafras house in the name of making music that I like illegal and forcing me to listen to whatever the fuck Tipper Gore wants me to listen to. Fuck them both. But hey, if they save the world from climate change maybe I’ll forgive them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For sure. In that moment Gore was wrong, powerful, and inflexible. He wound up being more flexible than his Republican counterparts, but I think you're well within your rights to say they've never properly repented for those actions. They've mostly just kinda been like "its in the past, just let it be in the past" when it's like... Man, you were an arms dealer in the culture war. You got the power and the platform to combat climate change by harming queer, black, and queer and black kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes exactly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I think it was still too late to avoid the worst of it, but with him as President in 2000 some things would have changed by now for the better, and some things would have been prevented. Or maybe not, alternative history is hard to predict, and maybe GWB was the better choice for the US and the world after all.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I love cook-outs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So maybe stop listening to what they say. Start going to the streets and make them listen to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Every time I see his name now I think Artificial Intelligence Gore.