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Because let's say you're Tom Hanks. And you get [email protected]

Well, what's stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

And some platforms minimize the text size of platform, or hide it entirely. So you just might see TomHanks, and think it's him. But it's actually a 7 year old Chinese boy with a broken leg in Arizona.

Because anyone can grab the same name, on a different platform.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

There's over 1400 people solely in the US named Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks The Celebrity does not get patent rights or trademarks or copyrights on the name.

Wanna know which is the Tom Hanks The Celebrity? Check if their profile is authenticated against their personal website, à-la-Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (36 children)

I presume I'm supposed to care, but I dont, and I don't know why anyone would.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

[email protected]

A celebrity can host their own domain to prove authenticity.

So what. On Xitter I can make an account called Tom.Hanks and get the blue mark by paying Elon. Because Tom Hanks has the username Tom_Hanks.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The fix for this is for the guilds and unions that represent these celebrities to spin up their own instances. The suffix of the username granting the legitimacy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

That's a feature, not a bug. Celebrity culture needs to get in the sea.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (14 children)

It should work the same as email: you can trust it’s them if the user account is hosted on their own site, or their employer’s, or if they link to it from another confirmed source.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Kind of like the BBC has their own Mastodon server instead of being on someone elses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep. Also, aren't there already celebrities on Mastodon? I know George Takei is. Granted, you'd have to know he was @mastodon.social versus mstdn.social so that could complicate things for those unfamiliar with the platform.

OP's definitely got a point, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

One good thing IMO about threads federating, that we get the celebrities, we know they're verified, but I don't have to join corpo social media.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Who the fuck wants celebrities here?

This is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Celebrities are going to be shocked when they hear about email

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Yes, but you see. Lemmy users generally don't give a flat fuck about what celebrities want.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a huge deal, we'll either know they're legit or not. Care to weigh in @[email protected] ?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Never heard of email

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

If you are that famous or worried about trademark, you shouldn't be using someone else's server. Tom Hanks can just buy e.g tomhanks.actor domain and set up the @[email protected] AP actor.

I keep repeating this: the weird part is that we still have all these companies and institutions being okay with depending on someone else's namespace. Having the NYT still announcing their Twitter or Instagram for social media presence is the same as using aol.com for their email.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You seem to be under the impression that it’s good if this place grows explosively. It’s not. There’s no VC to pay back here (and thank fuckin god for that). There’s no ad revenue here (again, this is good).

Also, not entirely sure what exactly to make of the weirdly targeted quip about a Chinese child, but spidey sense says it’s nothing good.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm not here for celebrities and they will always flock to centralized platforms anyways, since they are all about the views.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's why she hosts her own domain, instead of sending half a million followers to some random fediverse instance.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Those poor celebrities! What will we do without them?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of ICANN fucking up all the domain names.

CocaCola.com CocaCola.new CocaCola.drink Cocacola.world CocaCola.bev

Etc.

Shameful. One thing that might work for the fediverse is federal institutions running their own Mastadon instances on .gov to move away from announcements on Twitter. You can’t fake .gov domains.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Taylor Swift's Twitter handle is @taylorswift13 and it doesn't seem to be a problem for her.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We had a AMA with Will Ropp, an actor a few months ago: https://lemm.ee/post/31335226

[email protected]

We verified it was him by having him send us a message from his IG.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I think it might be kind of nice to be Tom Hanks and have the name [email protected] and just chat and chill.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shock: I'm not really Artie Shaw.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Account verification is relatively simple, if you have your own website you just add a link back with a special formatting. Problem is, barely anyone applies for self-verification, and several platforms such as Lemmy don't support self-verification whatsoever. I can see why something like a distributed verification agency should be a thing, if we manage to make the implementation less technical for the end users of course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We decided to not host any sort of Buy-Sell-Trade community on our hobby instance for this reason. It's a small community so a lot of people know usernames of people they know and can trust. It's very easy for a scammer to use someone's username and say "I'll sell you that thing! Send me $150!".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm on MBin. Your username is displayed as: walden. I can mouse over that to learn that your full username is @[email protected].

This is the same thing as email domain names and display names. Yes, scammers still exploit that, too, but for the most part, people have gotten used to also looking at the actual full email address, and not just the display name or mailbox name. The same can happen here.

Still, I would much prefer if the default view here showed the full username and not just the display name.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I see this as a benefit. Generally speaking celebrity posts are the most useless threads on most platforms.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I have a dream that one day I be part of a platform where one will not be judged by the glamor of their username but by the quality of their discourse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Ah, yes, that's a very good point. You're the smartest man in the world!

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