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[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

During the debate, he doubled down on his full page ad calling for the execution of the central park five. Despite everything since then that's come out strongly showing they were innocent

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ironic coming from a man convicted of sexual assault

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sing it all together now!
P! R! O! J! E! C! T! I! O! N!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've never a actually read this. This is horrendous and by itself - like so, so many things - should have effectively made him unelligible for office.

Even if he'd been right about them.

This also could easily have been written today, and shows an amazing example of what's wrong with a huge number of people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh I was flabbergasted when I read it too. It's also funny because it shows his speaking style hasn't changed that much in 40 years.

Shows Harris did her damn research though, and fully expected to be on the attack for the race angle. I never even heard about this ad before the debate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a very well known thing and has come up in tons of discussions about Trump in the last decade, especially his 2016 presidential run. I just personally had never read the text before.

Doesn't mean everyone is aware, but wouldn't be THAT impressed by Kamala being aware of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guess that's true. Still glad it got publicly outed in front of 67 million people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it shows his speaking style hasn’t changed that much in 40 years.

Does it? My first thought was "who wrote this? Trump definitely doesn't know some of those words" lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Punctuation still leaves a lot to be desired though

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago

It wasn’t clear if Trump immediately understood why Salaam was there, but he grinned and pointed at him, quipping: “That’s good, you’re on my side!”

Salaam, obviously taken aback, laughed along with some of the reporters around him.

“No, no, I’m not on your side!” Salaam shot back.

This senile old fuck has no business being in office again, nor did he the first time.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Excellent choice. He is the leader of mobs and needs to be called out.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think this was much of a confrontation. He couldn't hear. The guy behind the camera said "I'm Yusef Salaam" and Trump heard "I'm side" and thought he said "I'm on your side". There were so many people trying to get his attention.

It's too bad that the poor man can't get an apology. Could you imagine if Trump actually apologized? It would break everybody's brains.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

I think he heard, he was just ignoring it. Snowballs chance in hell he would apologize, he wouldnt even acknowledge that they were innocent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

If he apologized to a person for having been racist he would lose voters.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

It wasn’t clear if Trump immediately understood why Salaam was there, but he grinned and pointed at him, quipping: “That’s good, you’re on my side!”

That ain’t no fucking quip, yo. Goddamn.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"...for a crime they were later they later exonerated of."

Is The Independent a reputable news source? On the flip side, it's clear this wasn't written by AI!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that’s acceptable Brit speak tbh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Acceptable American speak, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

You're under the impression LLMs don't produce incorrect grammar?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They may be right this time, but still not reputable. I mean, come on, they ended that sentence with a preposition!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Not ending a sentence with a preposition is a stupid and meaningless rule. Everyone does it. Language has moved on. Get over it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

this is a great article, and somewhat unrelated, do all publications not have built-in grammar checks for their articles?

"...crime they were later they later exonerated..."

i keep seeing worse and worse typos, although it's difficult to call them typos at this point, how does such a clusterfuck happen these days?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There used to be copy editors. Copy editors cost money. Now, there are no copy editors.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That and research/investigative journalism were the first things to get the axe after the major corporations bought most of the media outlets.

It's just another money extraction device now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

AI training on itself after training on the collective random grammar mistakes of humans for all of time.

Yeah, it’ll make the CEOs richer alright.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

even my phone keyboard would have corrected this

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Execs:

we can save so much money if we just let “AI” proofread things!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Generous to assume they replaced the proof guy with ai instead of just firing everyone and letting ai write everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You've noticed the bane of my existence. The death of news and journalism has meant an end to good copy editing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He called for the debate room to be executed?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's funny how different his social media team sounds compared to him. Trump is so inarticulate / brutish that the "I am verily disappointed in these trying times." seems like a comedy skit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Like the opposite of the Key and Peele skits with Obama's translator.