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There's one problem that plagues every foldable smartphone, and the Pixel 9 Pro Fold perfectly encapsulates what that problem is.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

highlights the big foldable problem – nothing is 'right' yet

This is everything these days. Products are being shipped before they're complete just to be able to be the first to market (AI offerings most especially). It's dogshit and it's saddling consumers with things that are broken out of the box, because there's no fixing a limitation of the design.

Just check out these generic automated cat litter boxes that are killing cats. Apologies for reddit link. Capitalism is just shitting out whatever as fast as it can.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1fbwusc/this_generic_automatic_litter_box_sold_under/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

...feeling very justified in my decision to pay $700 for the name brand automated litter machine

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sometimes, paying more really does result in a higher quality product. It's a shame that it's not as often as it used to be.

Established products tend to be safer, for sure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, that works sometimes, until manufacturers get wise and just charge the quality price for a piece of shit. For one-off, niche market things the majority of consumers has no way of knowing which one is a quality product that will do it’s job for a long time and will fail gracefully, and which one is a dangerous time bomb. By the time you find out the money has already paid for some executive’s third gold bath tub.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That is why I said "tend to be." In a lot of cases, that's simply not true, especially for some legacy companies like General Electric who have gone through decades of stock buybacks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Guessing it's the Litter Robot? We've got one as well. Our youngest cat constantly tries to play in it while it's doing a cycle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, they're just slinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. There's no real thought put into anything these days. I'm very tired of the 'Form over Functionality' bs that's being hidden behind fancy marketing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The point of not being able to take advantage of the screen size is really interesting. I wonder why they don't design these to fold out into something with a normal phone aspect ratio, just bigger. That way you could actually take advantage of all the screen real estate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think its hard to have a foldable device that has a phone aspect ratio (2:1) when open and a reasonable size (and thickness) when closed.

This could only be done like the flip phone (1:1 --> 2:1) or by multiple folds (like the triple fold huawei).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They made metric paper. Time to make metric phones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

1:√2 wouldn't be the worst aspect ratio for a phone screen

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Golden ratio here we come

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are two problems and they are price and durability. These products will only ever "serve niche users" while those two concerns remain. The reason people are not buying these devices is not because of the aspect ratio, as much as tech journalists who receive these products for free would like to think this is the case.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just make it a Nintendo DS style: two separate screens with a hinge in between. They can make the gap caused by the hinge fairly small.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think Microsoft tried that, actually

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, as did LG (sort of) with the second screen on the V50.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's also why tablets never really took off. Sure a lot of people use them, but mostly as a big screen phone in portrait orientation. But they could be so much more if designers actually designed apps to adapt to changing sizes. Even something simple like displaying two screens of a normal phone app side by side in landscape mode rather than having to switch back and forth. But ultimately, cost makes developing for multiple screen sizes a "low priority feature", and those kinds of things never get funding. Instead they would rather put a feature that looks cool to investors and executives the product managers are trying to get to fund the project and on marketing materials to get sales people on-board, but is ultimately useless to the end user. Which comes back to the main problem in late-capitalism. The end user is no longer the customer, the corporate overlords and their investors are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I think the only thing that should be right is the price.

Everything else - form factor, thickness, aspect ratio, whatever - can and should be experimented with, and nothing will break because the apps adapt anyway.

Well, unless they are unoptimized for tablets in general, which most are...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

There's nothing more I want out of a phone than what I have with the P9F right now. Price should come down, but I'm using this thing until it's dead. Only other thing that could entice me is a rollable like LG was going to release here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Why the fuck can't you pull it wider when you open it, so it's an actually useful 16:9 display?

They advertise this on their website as "the largest display on a phone", but it's SQUARE. I hate this just as much as I've always hated the long form factor modern phones have.

I miss my Nexus 6.