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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Meanwhile the poorest 66% will suffer far more from climate change than the richest 1%. Heat deaths from wet bulb events, famine, unsafe air…

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Time to over throw the rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Let's seize their bank account

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

then you're rich and we need to seize your account

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not once you distribute it evenly. Then there is only equality

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Reminds me of a really funny reddit comment of someone trying to solve inequality: Take the richest person in the world and murder them. They would do this until people will be so afraid of having money that they'll just give it all away, thus eventually achieving equality.

Obviously it's a dogshit idea that could only come from the finest brains of preddit, but it's pretty funny to see a liberal take on communism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Also that's kinda what China does already and it hasn't really worked to close the wealth gap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Time to eat them

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

These articles are somewhat disingenuous. It isn't their mansions, their jets, or their yachts. It's because of the amount they have invested in fossil fuels and other industries. A better question is why do they have enough money to own so much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

What? That's where it matters most! Those are the biggest polluters.

If it just talked about their minuscule lifestyles, it would be disingenuous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And as private shareholders they demand those oil companies maximize irresponsible profit at the planet's expense.

When you own something, you bear responsibility for it. Not legally sadly, because these criminals make the laws, but in every other sense.

You don't get to own oil stock and then credibly claim you aren't the problem. No one puts a gun to anyone's head and says take the stake in blood money.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

With one weird trick we could slash carbon emissions by 1/3rd or more! All it would take is a few cuts. 👀

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We are the top 1%.

What's unmentioned is that the top 1%, the top 2%, the top 5%, even the top 10% has a disproportionate impact on emissions. That group is made up mostly by the West, but also the rich elite in China, India, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia, etc.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean by "we". You need roughly 800k$ to be part of the global 1% (and that was in 2018):

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/01/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-part-of-the-1-percent-worldwide.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It says that the top 1% makes 140k USD....

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Lemmy probably has a disproportionate number of tech bros who make that or more, but that's wayyy out of reach at least for most Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

America is ~5% of the global population alone. Europe is twice that. So by living in the west you're in the top ~15% sure, but not necessarily the top 1%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I agree as a whole, but I'm assuming that the online population trends upwards socioeconomically. 140k USD isn't that high of a salary for the US coastal elite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe a fair assumption for developing countries, but in countries where internet access approaches or exceeds 90% idk how you could justify that assumption

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

99% of people are not the top 1%.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

1% of world?

If you earn $60,000 a year after tax and you don't have kids, you're in the richest 1 percent of the world's population. If you have a household income of $130,000 after tax and you've got a partner and one kid, you're also in the richest 1 percent.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/9/15/23874111/charity-philanthropy-americans-global-rich

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean if you had bothered to open the article, it's in the 2nd paragraph:

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Why do these articles always mix up wealth and income?

You needed 800k$ in 2018 to be part of the 1% wealthiest.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/01/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-part-of-the-1-percent-worldwide.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I did, that continues as:

more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report.

Which is not the same as the headline.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Top 1% does 16%, bottom 66% does 16%, middle 33% does 68%.

On a per-capita basis, the top 1% is 8x worse than the middle 33% and 66x worse than the bottom 66%.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not having kids affects how rich you are ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Less kids means less money spent and more money saved in the long run, so yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So kids have négative value?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Depending on who you ask, yes.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

absolutely irrelevant and disingenuous using local income on a global scale. Dude making 130, 000 in Vancouver these days is a broke motherfucker (before tax)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

For the past six months, the Guardian has worked with Oxfam, the Stockholm Environment Institute and other experts on an exclusive basis to produce a special investigation, The Great Carbon Divide.

Over the period from 1990 to 2019, the accumulated emissions of the 1% were equivalent to wiping out last year’s harvests of EU corn, US wheat, Bangladeshi rice and Chinese soya beans.

“The super-rich are plundering and polluting the planet to the point of destruction and it is those who can least afford it who are paying the highest price,” said Chiara Liguori, Oxfam’s senior climate justice policy adviser.

The extravagant carbon footprint of the 0.1% – from superyachts, private jets and mansions to space flights and doomsday bunkers – is 77 times higher than the upper level needed for global warming to peak at 1.5C.

Oxfam International’s interim executive director, Amitabh Behar, said: “Not taxing wealth allows the richest to rob from us, ruin our planet and renege on democracy.


The original article contains 853 words, the summary contains 194 words. Saved 77%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

We should really get rid of them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Water is wet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Now I don't feel as guilty

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Bill Gates: That's why we need to ~~kill~~ depopulate 66% of the world's poor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why you chose Bill Gates who is the only one of this club actively trying to help this segment of world society and ostensibly planning to give away his wealth. Bezos, Musk, Jobs, all far more deserving of this.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Because he's the biggest player in the depopulation narrative. I thought him being responsible for forever covid to make a buck and his ties to Epstein would have been enough to ruin his reputation but I guess LTT was a warning that PR can whitewash even the biggest monster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dumbass mfers still think LTT is wholesome chungus even with all the stuff coming out about him... No wonder sexpestube is so rampant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I think my feed is broken. I'm seeing a lot of articles like this written by a person named Captain something

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

in other news water is wet