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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Strange question to begin with. Of course you need to cite all your sources??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

My source is I made it the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That's a terrible reference. Do they mean the first quarto, second quatro or first folio?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

What, you egg?

[He stabs him]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its certainly a source if the quote came from there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Well, it sources where that quote came from, but the quote does not actually source their claim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Now we need to figure out when the first ever usage of "no" in the English language was.

Also isn't the period supposed to be inside the quotation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is the period part of the quote?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Probably not, but the convention is that periods and commas always stay within the quotes, whether the period or comma is a part of the quote or not. (This differs from what one expects from writing code.) When using question marks though, the placement does depend on whether the question mark is a part of the quote.

Edit: When I was younger, I also didn't know this and would place all punctuation marks according to whether it is a part of the quote. In fact, in my native language that is what you're supposed to do. To this day I still dislike this convention in English.

Edit 2: I know that this is an American English thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Fuck convention when it doesn't make sense, though. I'm gonna put stuff that's part of the quote within the quotes and nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

(This differs from what one expects from writing code.)

I learned syntactic analysis at the same time as I learned to write code, and that convention always looked to me like made up by someone who learned none. "Ego dixi".¹

¹Psalmus 40:5

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If I remember correctly, this is a US thing. We were taught to place punctuation depending on whether they are part of the quote. So

I was reading 'War and Peace'.

but

She asked me 'Tea or coffee?'