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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've fired Sam Altman, this is wild

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very interesting indeed, given that Ilya Sutskever and Greg Brockman are in the board.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brockman is off the board now too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, just realized that. On first read I thought he was just helping with the transition, but this seems more like he's been kicked off the board too, although is still employed (for now).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's just posted that he's quitting on twitter. Didn't take long lol.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities. The board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI.

Scandal incoming?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While that's terrible, I doubt it's what brought him down. This is from 2021 and it would have been easy for Altman to dismiss her as someone as someone who has mental issues, making it up etc. He has the money and backing for it. I suspect there's way more below what we see here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has to be something else that hasn't been revealed yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This isn't enough for you?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Those allegations have been floating since ~2021, I don't think openai would suddenly decide to take emergency action on them 2+ years later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Brockman was also taken off the board so this seems unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That article doesn't sound like enough for anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, something from a month ago already publicized isn't likely to cause them to fire them like this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like there must be. And for the board to move this fast it's probably financial.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It's serious enough that they immediately cut ties and publicly accuse him of dishonesty, to me that suggests it's probably something illegal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, maybe OpenAI has been bleeding money and the board had no idea until now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I could be wrong but these days the longest you could go on having no idea is about a week. And that's if you are really not that engaged. Companies like this run on financial statements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Probably extremely dubiously sourced training data from the black market or some shit.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities. The board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI.

Now that is a damning statement. Usually an exec being fired is through sugar coated language like spending time with family, wants a new challenge, took a roll elsewhere, or retiring.

As someone who has to prep docs for the board review meetings, I'm super curious as to what he lied about

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They should put their money where their mouth is and replace all leadership with AI