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As the Fediverse continues to grow, people are looking to build new experiences that change what's possible on the network today.

Flohmarkt is a nascent project intended for selling personal items, and may be the first attempt of its kind here.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I am interested and I like this.

However, I don't really get it. The site linked just seems like a feed of all products.

Is there a way to see caregories based on people marking up their items?

Is there an ActivityPub spec around these?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lovely idea but what is that name

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

German word for flea market

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now that I know I love it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

could've just read the first two paragraphs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Reading the article before posting?

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I just realized the Swedish slang for flea market would work a charm. Loppis. It even sounds like a hip app. Someone quick make it an open fedi platform before the capitalists take it!

Edit: It's short for loppmarknad. Loppa = flea. Marknad = market.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Loppis sounds way better than Flohmarkt, and I say that as a german native speaker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

flea market

I don't know how, but i kinda imagined it even though i don't speak a word of German (nor i am an English native speaker). It just... uh, sounds like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's quite obvious from the context

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

That is the German name for flea markets. It’s when people sell old stuff they don’t want or need anymore in their garden/some square/the street.

Guess the creators are Germans…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

A standard name for a open source project \s

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I don't think the "decentralize and federate everything" strategy is a good idea when it comes to online marketplaces.

We've seen how quickly bad actors can wreak havoc on the Fediverse like that one time when Lemmy Shitpost was closed for weeks due to people creating new instances of their own and spamming the community with CSAM. Imagine how much you open the community up to scams or criminal activity when money gets involved.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I mean if there's a time to test it out, it's right now I would argue.

Lemmy is still small enough to test those things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It will probably split and congregate around instances focusing on heavy moderation and KYC vs crypto-focused free-for-all ones if they ever gain traction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe money shouldn't be involved.

Just match sellers and buyers together and let them figure the terms and transaction out themselves.

All that is needed is a way to find what you want and a solid system of building trusted profiles with ratings and such.

Not a simple task, but keep the money out and it will all be easier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

All that is needed is a way to find what you want and a solid system of building trusted profiles with ratings and such.

Wouldn't the second part require a trusted means to verify that a given profile actually sold you the promised thing, as well as some trusted means (two-party signing, maybe) to announce that a payment actually took place?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Almost named it something people will remember how to spell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Flohmarkt? Seems simple enough.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Very interesting, I made a local community [email protected] a year or so ago but have done nothing with it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would love for this to become successful! I am assuming it's not in any great state yet, but the decentralized future is waiting for us !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Something about this sounds AIsh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There have already been projects like that in the cryptocurrency space.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm aware. I think the Nostr space in particular is doing a really great job, and has some good ideas on how to make it work. Why this development is significant, though, is that it's happening in ActivityPub space. It's not as robust, and doesn't have all the answers. But, the existence of such a project means that people within the space are already thinking about how to make this concept viable for the Fediverse.