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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Trump, the same Trump that killed boarder legislation because he didn't want to give biden a win?

Not him, no, never.

Via user kingshrubb: Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html

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[–] [email protected] 292 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I'm gonna need more than somebody's social media post on this.

Edit: Because right now it's "somebody's" social media post with an unsourced and undated quote from "someone" referring to "reporting," with a picture of a lady that has a PBS/NewsHour watermark. This is exactly the kind of thing you should be skeptical of in the absence of better confirmation, all up and down that ladder of vagueness.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I would delete it but it's too relevant to the meme. Alternative link to the dnc footage would be nice, tho.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The rueters one doesn't indicate anything about Trump talking to Bibi and discouraging him from setting up a peace deal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To me it's still relevant because it establishes that trump has an open line of communication to bibi and he is directly expressing to him his thoughts about the Genocide in Gaza.

Wish there was more reporting around this.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. The "lady" is Judy Woodruff, PBS anchor and correspondent since it was the MacNeill-Lehrer News Hour, so it would greatly surprise me if she didn't have some credible evidence behind "the reporting is".

But I missed that moment last night, so I'd want to be sure she said it.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So like the alleged deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran during the hostage crisis to get elected and oust Carter?

[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 months ago

Or Kissinger and North Vietnam to get Nixon elected. It's a time honored Republican strategy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean? Oliver North took all the blame!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oh no, you're thinking of Iran-Contra, the other treasonous act that Reagan committed involving Iran. OP is talking about the rumored deal Reagan made with Iran wherein Iran would not release the American hostages until after the 1980 election. Coincidentally, the hostages were released on January 20th, 1981, the day Reagan was sworn in.

Sidenote, has anyone seen the Netflix documentary about the octopus murders? I think the proof that Reagan made that deal is at the heart of that conspiracy.

Edit: I've just come across this in another thread. It seems the hostage deal between Reagan and Iran did, in fact, happen. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43368900/reagan-iran-hostages/

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Aw shucks. You know just when you think you hone in on one depraved scandal of Reagan, you realize you're mixing it up with another depraved scandal of Reagan.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I do not recall.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It is crazy to me that all of the "Genocide Joe" crowd don't see that Netanyahu wants Trump to win so he can show the world what genocide actually looks like.

Well, not that crazy, considering a good portion of them are propagandists.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It all so closely resembles 2016. Remember the phantom Bernie Facebook groups? Remember "Bernie supporters" voting trump instead. They think we are idiots and some of us must be for falling for it, time, and time again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've noticed a considerable lack of the usual suspects from that particular crowd in this thread.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Isn't him doing that illegal? Like very illegal?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you think either Trump or Netanyahu gives a single shit about what's legal?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

look, he’s doing this in the context of his presidential duties, this makes it completely legal, duh, fucking serfs getting uppity. ~~SCOTUS

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if Reagan can get away with it

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Maybe if they stopped sending billions in weapons to Israel they could make something happen.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Reagan did the same thing with the hostages in the embassy in Iran.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Lol I was like "hold on, I've seen this one"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like Nixon at least knew how to wear a suit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And actually did some decent things among his bullshit - one decent thing being starting the EPA.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (6 children)

"Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable with imprisonment for up to three years."

I can only say: Lock him up!

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Straight out of the Republican play book.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's posts like this that always oddly have 0 tankie comments lamenting about genocide Joe. Weird how that is, it's like they avoid all articles that disprove their entire worldview. Crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just when you think he couldn't be any more cartoonishly evil.

"Oh waiter, more genocide please"

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

Something, something, Iran Hostage Crisis, something, something, more bullshit from the Reagan playbook

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

To all the "Harris and Trump are the same crowd, stop being so cowardly and try to say that shit here and now. Or don't, and confirm that this whole time you were being wilfully ignorant because you enjoy purity politics nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Oh I'm just sure that Linkerbaan is reposting this as we speak. Since he totally wasn't lying about Trump supposedly trying to negotiate a ceasefire lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

man I'm against genocide as much as any reasonable person. but fuck that guy.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't that violate some US law? He is not authorized to negotiate with a foreign power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only reason I could believe it, is that it's happened before. See: Reagan and the Iran hostages.

Still, I'm going to need a better source. This seems uncharacteristically competent.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If that's true, it's absolutely abominable.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We don't want boarders though. They will just kill us all and take our ship.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Oh hey the traitorous traitor is doing traitor things.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I don't want an end to killing because the killing helps me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

It’s Iran-Contra all over again.

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