Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?
Sweet lord Almighty. He is scared out of his mind.
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Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?
Considering the subject, you're going to have to be more specific.
Dude it was EVERYTHING lmao.
Crowd size
2020 election
Biden dropping out
The size of the room they were in
That there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2020
His leads in every state
It was wild that his campaign allowed this to happen.
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Former President Donald Trump says he has agreed to an offer from ABC News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10.
— ABC News
Is ABC News not in a position to confirm or deny this claim?
Also, no mention of the terms or format?
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Hopefully they mute his mic when he tries talking over everyone.
In addition, I hope Kamala constantly calls him out for not actually answering any questions.
"Everything he just said was bullshit, and we are all dumber for having heard it."
"I award you no votes, and may Uncle Sam have mercy on your soul."
She is going to mop the stage with him.
They're on Fox a week earlier, so they'll end up muting Harris when she fact checks him.
It's my understanding she has only agreed to the ABC debate on the 10th.
Harris isn't accepting the Fox invitation, because it's a stunt to get Trump out of debating at all unless it's rigged for him.
If she did accept the invite, I can't stress enough how stupid an idea that is.
If she accepts the Fox debate, they will manipulate the event to make her look bad and Trump good. It won't be a real debate, and the hacks at Fox will ensure that it's just a thinly veiled campaign event for Trump.
After declaring himself the victor, he'll drop out of any other debates as "unnecessary" since he already "beat" Kamala.
If she doesn't take the bait, she gets to call Trump a coward for refusing to debate at all, and he has no advantage and no excuse.
And then later he'll back out
He's lied and said Harris agreed to a debate on Fox first. So when she "backs out" of that, it will be his excuse for backing out of ABC.
The Harris/Walz campaign very swiftly made several public statements the FOX debate will not be happening.
But that doesn't matter. He needs the debate more than she does. There's never going to be a debate on Fox News because they aren't unbiased.
Democrats have most likely learned their lesson. Unless you're a rhetorical genius like John Stewart or Bernie Sanders, Fox News is a death trap.
ABC offered him a happy meal from McDonald's with two toys in it.
This is exciting, and I'm hopeful that this will accelerate her momentum. But I don't think we can count Trump out yet. If nothing else, he's usually good at playing to his base.
Harris has a lot of pressure on her. People are basically expecting a total domination from her, so anything less than that could derail her momentum very fast. And Trump might be terrible at classic debating, but he is actually very adept at bulldozing others by ignoring speaking in turns, deploying a fire hose of lies and misinformation and loudly talking over others.
Let's hope for good moderation.
Remember that Harris is an experienced prosecutor. Her literal job has been dealing with liars, cheats, and various scummy and desperate lawyers for years. If anyone can shut down the Trump oral vomit, it's going to be her.
She is, but Trump is special. I don't know that any previous experience will necessarily apply. In the courtroom she would have always been empowered by speaking from a position of authority - Trump will show her no such decorum.
That's on the moderation, and I can't say I've seen good moderation for the big debates in a long time. They should bring in a grade school teacher who does regular debate classes and let them do what they know how to do.
I guess I left that part unsaid, but yes. With good moderation Trump wouldn't be able to run his schtick - but here we are. We have to play the hand we're dealt.
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Trump is special because other people give him decorum. She's not likely to. She's playing to win.
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I think every time he interrupts her she should just stop talking and wait until he’s quiet again, then continue whatever she was saying without addressing anything brought up outside of his allotted times.
Keep projecting “the adult in the room” energy. She isn’t allowed to get frustrated because she’s a black woman. That’s the sad reality.
I'd like to hear an "anyway" when he's done and she gets back to her point. Like completely ignore his existence for a moment.
She isn’t allowed to get frustrated because she’s a black woman. That’s the sad reality.
Not only that but she can't come across as condescending either because she's a black woman.
At the end of the day she must cater to low-info battleground state swing-voters. That is her target audience because she can do no right in the eyes of maga and she doesn't really have to worry about Democrats.
So what will someone like my uncle who fits that description respond positively to in such a debate?
Probably not a pissing contest, but constantly pivoting directly to saying, "look I hear you. I understand many of you are feeling the pressure in the economy. You've been told it's getting better but many of you aren't feeling it. I understand. But we have a plan to relieve some of that pressure. And while we aren't where we want to be, our country has recovered following the pandemic better than any country in the world. Slow and steady wins the race, and electing someone as volatile as Donald Trump who only helps his rich friends will not help the markets."
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Once he starts, he won't stop. So that would be a failed plan by Harris.
Yes. I would love to hear her say, literally, "I heard everything you said but I didn't hear anything worth listening too. Anyway back on topic."
I don't know, that seems like something the Dems of old would do. "They go low, we go high" kind of thing. And also would let Trump completely control the flow, which is what he wants. I suspect the only way to beat him is to match him in loudness and push back with authority.
I don't think you can beat him by being "fair", you have to beat him at his own game.
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I liked how Pete buttejudge handled it on Fox News last week. He just kept talking as if the host wasn't there.
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Maybe say something like "well that was weird" and then, like you say, just go back to her point.
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Deal maker Donnie really doing deals here. Looks like he's basically caved.
Watch MAGA base desperately ignore another obvious example yet again if his tough words and weak actions not lining up.
Drug test before and after please
Also make sure he hasn't kiestered a weapon. Some brave lad go in and make sure.
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I pray they didn't offer to remove the mute button.
I can't find anything about the debate rules, etc. Anyone know if its the same structure as the last debate?
This will be epic. I can't wait.
He says lots of things, wouldn't be surprised if he backs out cause he won't agree to terms
Now that is going to be interesting. Time to stock up on popcorn. Sadly, your debate is going to be in our middle of the night, so I'll have to find it on YT later.
He's going to spew so may lies, it'll be exhausting.
She should back out, just to fuck with him. Who gives a shit, I don't need to see her debate him.
I literally cannot watch trump in a debate. He's so unintelligible and disrespectful, interrupting and name calling and raising his voice, etc. any debate he participates in just turns into a children's yelling match.
She should school him on every question, every answer, every lie, and every insult/quip, and make America see him for the dishonest incompetent and spiteful person that he is. Just to fuck with him.
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