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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm old enough to remember when Republican politicians could denounce Russia without worrying about alienating their donations.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I’m old enough to remember republicans used to take pride in calling themselves “fiscal conservatives but socially liberal” and “party of personal liberty”

Now they want to regulate women’s periods and children’s math textbook for “wokeism”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't that effectively the Libertarian motto for a bit? When they weren't veering down some insane tangent that they all picked up on on that particular year?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Something like that. I am paraphrasing but "personal freedom and personal responsibility" was the idea that really resonated with me in my more conservative past, before I realized that this only works if you simultaneously accept the narrowest interpretation of personal freedom and the broadest interpretation of personal responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are people who are old enough to remember the time when one could shoot Nazis without alienating any American. Times where patriotic Americans put their lives in danger (and too often lost them) when shooting Nazis.

It is time to re-awaken this memory.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Americans didn't want to fight the Germans because they were white. That's why it took Pearl Harbor for us to formally join ww2. It's racism all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah everybody conveniently forgets that America only joined the fight because of the Japanese and that we also threw Japanese-American citizens in internment camps due to paranoia.

There were American protestors that were arguing in favor of letting the Nazi's do whatever they want.

We often look at that time in history as if it were a long time ago when it's been less than 100 years. We act as if we're not the same dumb animals just cause now we have the internet and can see all this shit live.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah everybody conveniently forgets that America only joined the fight because of the Japanese and that we also through Japanese-American citizens in internment camps due to paranoia.

While we're sharing atrocities of our nations past, Canada also had them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

None dare ask how all those copies of The Protocols of the Elders Of Zion ended up in Henry Ford's dealerships, scattered all across Western Europe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I remember when politicians would deny receiving money from donors. Those "donations" were called bribes back when. Now they're called "influence" and everyone does it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When you could work with a Dem without being a RINO. Fuck the right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

RINO

"Republican in Name Only" for those not acquainted

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are they still denouncing nazis? I thought the new maga tagline was there were decent people on both sides.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Back in the day, the Republican party installed Dwight Eisenhower, the freakin Supreme Allied Commander and top Nazi Conqueror, in the White House. But yeah, I'm sure "decent people on both sides" is not angering Ike's ghost.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah we heard a lot of "decent people from sides" after the Charlottesville attack, namely. Talk about relativism!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welcome to the club! I think in most democratic nations nowadays the right is buddying up with fascists. At first it was scary, but now it's mostly depressing to see it's become the new norm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Still very scary

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Remember when they hated Russians too?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My grandfather was a Republican most of his life and spent part of his 20s killing Nazis during the push into Berlin.

Helped liberate a few POW and concentration camps, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Helped liberate a few POW and concentration camps, too.

Absolutely amazing, what a hero. Wonder what he’d have to say about some people from America and other Allied nations getting into bed with Nazis now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He left the Republican party after they were wearing Purple Heart band aids at their convention. He was never very religious and that whole evangelical thing rubbed him the wrong way already, so it didn't take much to drive him out.

My dad always said the line "Voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war" was about him.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

when Republican politicians could denounce Nazis

The Nazis they were denouncing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

George HW Bush denounced David Duke as an insincere charlatan with a record of nothing but ugly hate, and then he was defeated in his run for a second term by Clinton, a southern Democrat who ran on racist anti immigrant rhetoric. The Republicans have never backed off fierce anti immigrant rhetoric since.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

George HW Bush denounced David Duke as an insincere charlatan

Then did laps around Bob Jones University collecting donor checks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Half right is better than full nazi.

But - hey, okay, fine let the GQP attack nazis for being “national socialists” and let’s see what happens. (Spoiler: they’re not going to do that. And only partly because they don’t know what “national socialism” is)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Half right is better than full nazi.

"My opponents are Nazis for raising my taxes" is not the critique of Nazism you think it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Oh dear my retort was removed for being uncivil.

tsk tsk. Ah well. Perhaps one of the pre-built and pre-approved response options will prove illuminating.

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