ITT: a bunch of people who like having to spend half their life driving and are upset they can't spend more
this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2024
4 points (100.0% liked)
Fuck Cars
9607 readers
455 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I definitely don't like it at all, but I'm just a worthless underpaid factory schmuck so I have to live far from work because anything close is pretty much my entire paycheck just for rent...
The US really needs to find a better way to solve this issue, but since we're all "rugged individualists" things just get built where the owners want and nothing needs to make sense for anyone... Where I currently work most people have to drive an hour each way just to get here. Logistics for deliveries are horrendous. It makes no sense to have a factory where this is, but that's what the owner wanted...
Tough to drive less when the world around you discourages anything other than cars lol. DOT needs to do more than just warn congress.
I think it’s a start. I’ve seen more and more from the feds and local governments about the infrastructure/walkability issue. It moves at a snail’s pace but that’s the government in general. My guess is that if you can align the people making federal policy to allocate federal money for public transit projects and high speed trains and such, you can incentivize local governments to use more dense mixed-use zoning laws and drum up local support for public transit projects where people aren’t stuck in a car all day.
I lived in Nashville when Barry proposed and mulled over their now doomed spoke and hub suburban train project between bang sessions with her security detail at the graveyard. It was frustrating that local businesses bitched and moaned and doomed the city to be another shitty Atlanta, so we have to understand the hurdles and the politics involved. Fortunately I have some faith that Buttigieg does but it’s admittedly frustrating when everything related to climate change is already too little too late and it’s moving so slowly to the point that we are only in the early stages.
So many cultural things have to change too. Penalizing big truck and SUV manufacturers is a start. Nobody needs one of those damn things.
DOT is half the problem, department of TRANSPORTATION but they only really care about roads or cars. It was also DOTs that ripped out peoples homes to pave highways into city centers. They caused a signifcant amount of this problem and they should be responsible for creating some solutions.
DOT is trying to fix things, at least somewhat, but can’t build transit unless Congress allocates money. Also m, they can only implement political priorities: what happens without “Amtrak Joe”?
DOT can advise that towns and cities change zoning to encourage denser population centers and transit-oriented development, but they can’t actually do anything about it. That’s all under local government
so how the hell am i supposed to get anywhere in this suburban hell hole im stuck in then? the government itself created this damn infrastructure and now we're all just stuck here.
Catch-22, don't build Suburbia (aka don't live in and pay for it) AND drive less. On a positive note, using public transit and sharing space has the opposite effect.
Once again, many governments refuse to build anything except suburbia. This isn't just a simple matter of personal choice. City planning, roads, transit, density, and taxation all need to be addressed to build our cities better again.
And it took a century of constantly expanding population to build it out this way. We don’t have a century to fix it, nor do we have a quickly expanding population to drive it. We have to somehow fix things in place
Suburban sprawl makes owning a car a necessity. If we're going to significantly reduce the amount of driving Americans do, I think most people are going to have to give up on the American dream. Most people are just not going to be able to own their own, detached single family home in the suburbs.
The american dream is half the problem. Most suburban neighbourhoods cost more to maintain and repair than they generate in taxs. They are unsustainable and simple rises in taxs would need to be too steep for most of them. Many cities repair an old neighbourhood with the profits from selling land/development fees for a new neighborhood, somewhat like a pyramid scheme. The american dream was doomed from the start because it was always unsustainable, from an environmental, economical, and social view.
I'd say it's more than half the problem. It's just too expensive, too inefficient, and just not sustainable. It must go, and once it does, suburban sprawl will go with it. Once that goes, higher density housing and mixed use development will become the norm, and when that happens, owning a car will become not only unnecessary but impractical, for many.
Depends on where you live but making walkable/micromobility friendly cities more common is critical for sure. I'm fortunate enough that I can bike to work every day, same for groceries and general medical stuff.
lol fuck this personal responsibility shit, fuck over rich people than we will talk. I do support public transit.
I think we're all lucky you're not one of the rich people.
Spoiler : USA Congress does not care
How a Congress that applauded a war criminal could give a #### to Climate Change -_-