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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Can't tell if this is a shitpost or not

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's more linux circlejerk or "windows bad" posts in this community than actual useful ones.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of all the circlejerks this one is really silly though. You can complain about so many fucking things about Windows but Windows 11 is really damn easy to install and setup and I'm pretty sure you can do it in 30 mins.

The OP's whining about Linux playing all the games feels like bait to me. Linux just doesn't run every game that Windows does and it's not about how graphically intense it is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some linux distros are also damn easy to install, easier than windows just try for yourself

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It is no competition on whether linux is easier to install when you can run it off a fucking flash drive.

That doesn't make Windows 11 hard though.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux users on Lemmy: People who don't run Linux are just bad with computers and shouldn't be using a computer at all!

Also Linux users on Lemmy: Anyone else is unable to install windows from scratch?

😘👌

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Linux users on Lemmy: People who don't run Linux are just bad with computers and shouldn't be using a computer at all!

I remember being part of these exact same conversations on other message boards at least 15 years ago.

We're all going around in circles here as history repeats itself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me neither. Linux is my main Operating System but... We can't generalize one Windows experience just like we can't generalize one Linux experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's a lot easier to do the former than the latter. Windows fixes a lot of things about the experience, but maybe not the exact flavoring / theming.

Linux you can't say anything about the experience besides sweeping generalizations by distro.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with this. I use Linux exclusively at home, but for work I have a windows laptop. It’s really not that bad. I for sure don’t like it as much, but it isn’t atrocious.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have found windows is easier to install every time. This is just another windows bad linux good post. Windows has so many issues, but installation is not one of them. Even my 10 year old cousin installs it fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

OP:

I run Arch btw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It has to be, windows makes it super easy to install so they can get your data faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Windows bad, upvotes to the left

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

You missed the part where you either sign in with your Microsoft account or cut your Internet, remove the webcam, fake your own death, and do the secret tap code in the bios to just have the OS without letting Microsoft into your butthole.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Try doing it on a b650 motherboard that's so new the windows installer doesn't even have the correct ahci drivers

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cant tell if people in this thread are trolls, ultra elite linux shills, or just people incapable of following simple instructions...

Like I get it, windows bad or w/e... But to act like it takes longer than an hour or two to install it, let alone 2 whole fucking days is just asinine.

Imagine having enough of a skill issue that it takes you 2 days to install Windows OS. The OS that idiot proofs itself by literally holding your hand on every option and walks you through itself to install.

Im not even joking, I re-install and have installed windows the past few years multiple times on personal devices for myself and my family and friends and even do it for professional devices and servers for my job. It is brain dead easy, enough that my tech illiterate grandparents managed to re-install it before I could make the drive to meet them and do it for them... I can't take this OP or anyone else seriously if they can manage to install a linux based OS but somehow have 2 days worth of trouble with Windows OS...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OP is just wanting to shit on Windows because this is a Linux community.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I recently just reinstalled windows on my gaming pc and arch on my laptop, and I completely agree with you. especially the fact that now windows 11 force you to sign in. I know it can be skipped, and average users probably wont care, but FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!

archinstall is such a breeze, and in general for linux, I can control precisely what to install and configure it to be exactly how I like it, as opposed to windows I had to find some sketchy debloater scripts to remove all the craps, disable the telemetries, and hoping it doesn't break anything.

And if I break anything, linux always have detailed documentations, where as windows...its always some indian guy on youtube teaching you how to run windows troubleshooter and hand you more sketchy scripts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That sucks that it's been such a pain.

I can't say I've ever experienced the same though, windows install is a breeze and very fast, and on W10/11 these days everything just basically works perfectly out of the box for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

As someone who helped friends/family build PC gaming rigs multiple times last year (2023) I understand what you're coming from W11 installer is pure dogshit.

Tbh tho, my dad always hated new Windows versions because he didn't want to learn a new UI/UX, which I fine, but the windows experience isnt that hard to learn, even if it is different. Same thing with Linux, if you use GNOME/KDE/i3/hyprland/sway/<insert any DE/WM here> for the first time it won't be easy to find all of the settings either.

But the W11 installer in particular sucks ass. There is so many restrictions that try to prevent you from even installing it. The one rescue for me was downloading the Rufus USB ISO tool and letting it download the W11 installer itself and apply patches which removed all the ridiculous restrictions.

I mean, you can even rub that shit in Virtual box if you want. My GF is literally running it on "unsupported hardware" according to Microsoft but windows updates and everything post-install is completely functional.

Only reason Mictorsoft Philips wants the restrictions is to have a tighter grip on the ecosystem and limit end consumers from installing it themselves and pushing that part to other companies or retailers which they can buy finished products (laptops etc) from instead of licenses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like the problem was between the keyboard and chair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nice bait I guess. Windows may have bad things, but I have no idea what you're talking about here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ROFL, I like Linux, but if you can't install windows 11 easily. The problem isn't win11...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is you cursed somebody out on Xbox Live in 2018 and now your Microsoft account is banned.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I thought this would be a post complaining about the usablility of windows as a desktop, not the one thing windows does right...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

These "Windows bad" posts are the worst thing in the Linux community. I run Windows on my desktop because Games are just far easier and usually run better, and Windows works perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I straight up think they did it because they want everyone on co-pilot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Being unable to delete OneDrive is reason enough to drop Windows imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Windows has it's serious flaws, and I would never willingly go back to it at this point, but the installer is too hard? This sounds like a you-issue rather than a Windows one.

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