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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

I self host. Don't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Fastmail, 100%. Reasons:

  • "Encrypted email" only works between encrypted providers. ProtonMail and Tutanota are both very inconvenient, and all I want is an email that's not scanned for marketing.
  • Since 2018, ProtonMail kept getting worse, especially with the recent AI stuff. Dodged bullet, IMO.
  • $6/month = Custom domains, and any amount of emails under those domains. I can send and receive from any domain xxx@yyy [dot] lynndotpy [dot] dev, for example.
  • CalDav and CardDav provider = Contacts, calendar, and reminders sync. Works perfectly on iOS too, if you like that.

It replaced my finnicky NextCloud for half the cost.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

You forgot the Fastmail killer feature. Masked email addresses.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PGP encrypted e-mail works regardless of the provider btw.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True but go and explain that to the regular Joe..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

yeah.. it's pretty hard to get non-techies to use encrypted mail. even proton's encryption is pretty useless as it's decrypted in their web client anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I might have to change my provider. Paying the same with a worse featureset.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Proton. Yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used to pay for Gmail, then I used Proton Mail about a year, and I’ve been using Fastmail for the last couple of years, which I recommend. I don’t know of anything that’s as feature-rich and easy to use as Fastmail. You may not be interested in all those fancy features, though.

I use MacOS/iOS Mail clients, but also Thunderbird as I’m trying to wean myself off of Apple’s ecosystem and onto Linux/FOSS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

+1 for fastmail… it’s one of those products that isn’t trying to trick you… you pay for it, and it’s just a solid product that tries to be the best at what it is…

it’ll let you have as many domains and aliases as you like, including wildcards for email (and lets you reply/send appropriately using any of those aliases)

it’ll let you pull all your calendars and push events into a single one of your choosing - it doesn’t have to be theirs

i could probably replicate some of what it does with my home server, but it’s really nice that i don’t have to

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Does it have good spam filtering like Gmail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yep! It's decent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

i can’t remember the last time i got spam… i don’t know if it’s as good as, but it’s not a problem that i’ve noticed

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

ProtonMail. Works great for the most part.

Except their desktop "app", which is total shit. It's just a webview in an electron framework. If I wanted to keep a webview, I'd just keep a tab open in my browser. Or a separate browser window if I wanted to keep it separate.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Mailbox.org with my own custom domain ([email protected]) and Thunderbird for an email client.

I would highly recommend it. It is cheap and includes almost a complete replacement for Google services (email, contacts, calendar, online drive, etc).

Please consider your privacy. Giving all you emails to Google (or other mainstream data harvesters) basically gives them deep info about your whole life (purchases, travel, communication....everything).

Having a custom domain let's you go to any provider you like if you want to switch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Protonmail, it's fantastic. Sleek design, solid feature set, integrates with Thunderbird if you want to use that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ionos.
Too lazy to selfhost. Also the implications of self hosting and securing email is too cumbersome to sleep well at night.
But I do self host non-important to my living at home.

Edit:
Inbox: Outlook. Tried eM-Client but it was worse than Outlook (around 2018 or 19)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Answer to the bonus question: http://mutt.org/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Proton for personal email. Not immediately needing to escape but once my free email runs out of storage I plan to switch to something else because of the concerns raised by the incident with the French climate activist.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

My own. With blackjack and hookers.

As a client I use Kmail. But I'm not really satisfied. Kmail 3 was so great, I miss it. I should go back to Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I self host, on a personal domain I registered in June 2000. Mostly followed a 13?-part tutorial at I think linuxbabe dot com, was the first one that seemed to genuinely be trying to help you set up a good environment, not just as a way to say “doesn’t this sound difficult? Impossible even? Coincidentally you can pay us to do this instead.” Except I put everything on its own VM instead of all on one. (Even a VM for just opendkim, which was maybe not necessary.)

Mostly iPhone mail app and/or Roundcube webmail.

Yes highly recommend it, for receiving email. Greylist blocks like 99.8% of spam. Sending works fine for me, because it’s an old domain with history. I don’t think brand new domains have the same experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Zoho, because it's email server is free to use for custom domain adresses

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mxroute with thunderbird as a client and mail on iOS for mobile.

Unlimited domains and rock solid. Just don’t expect lots of hand holding the company focuses on making email work you have to sort out your own details. That being said they have good documentation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Posteo. Happy with them. For client, gnus in Emacs. Have it configured to do Autocrypt too, but almost nobody else on the planet does 🙁

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Can vouch for Posteo. I've been using them for years and I have no reason to switch anytime soon. They're privacy focused, the price is great, there's IMAP support and CalDAV too and a bunch of other things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Migadu. Yeah*. On the computer, I use mostly aerc (+notmuch), but hop on Thunderbird once in a while; on mobile I use K-9.

* If you are not looking for totally free options (though their cheapest plan is 20€/y and they give 50% discount to students), and if you don't care about email encryption (which you shouldn't). Migadu has a very good Pros/Cons page, I highly recommend you take a look, even if you're not using or planning to use their service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Okay you added an asterisk but I'm not seeing a footnote. Is that a markup typo?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

self hosted. postfix + dovecot. android email app, thunderbird, or alpine from the cli.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You've marked your account as a bot. This may cause some people to not be able to see your content if they've hidden bot content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

how am i marked as a bot??? thanks. trying to fix now!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

fixed. thanks bff for the heads up!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I use Gmail and the client I use is the browser along with the Gmail app on Android. ... Yeah, I know, not a very interesting or fun answer lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tuta, wouldn't really recommend it since I can't use it with Thunderbird or as an SMTP server

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I tried Tuta but it felt a bit clumsy. Proton feels like it has a better UX.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I pay for a Google workspace account, but I've been thinking about self hosting. I've had my eye on mailcow for a bit, does anyone recommend?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Gmail and protonmail. Both give me no issues at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Proton, yes. There are some criticisms to make regarding them, but I think most are either blown out of proportion or a non issue for the majority of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Tuta. It's great but no third-party client support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Purely Mail, yes; so long as you're comfortable with one guy running the service.

Thunderbird for desktop and K-9 for Andriod. Only because they were the most recommended and completely fit my needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Purely Mail has been a good experience for me so far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Haven't had any issues with purely mail myself. I really like it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I agree, Purely Mail is great and cheap. Very cheap (I'm always afraid he's going to increase the price)

The owner is kind and professional, but he's alone, that's the only downside.

But if you use your own domain and you keep a backup of your messages, there's no need to worry about the one-man show.

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