Wait what I'm confused why wouldn't it be? The laptop presumably has more powerful other components and if nothing else just uses more raw materials from being way bigger
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Storage and RAM has always been cheaper for computers than phones because they don't have the size constraints. Computers also use way more RAM and storage than phones.
Sounds like those two components have overcome miniaturization constraints and can fit on single chips now.
They haven't. Apple just gouges the fuck outa that shit and charges $200 for 8GB more RAM and $400 for 1TB more storage.
This is why the $80 Raspberry pi has as much RAM.
Not that Apple’s pricing isn’t definitely over the top, but the RAM on a Raspberry Pi isn’t even in the same league as RAM in a MacBook Pro.
Well yeah, but aren't these prices the price for the whole system, not just the storage and ram?
Going from 256GB -> 1TB is $400. That's insanity. A 1TB NVME drive is less than $100 these days.
But does that include apple magic pixie dust? Didn't think so.
You can even get 2TB NVME SSDs for under $100, Apple's pricing is ridiculous.
I got a 2TB USB drive for just $5. You need to know where to shop!
Actually...
it was a clearance at a local Vietnamese shop, and it said “2TB (64GB extension)” so I knew what to expect. I scooped it up to prevent a less tech-savvy person from using it and losing 1936 GB of their data. I found that the FirstChip flash controller can be reprogrammed using the software MPtools, which I used to find bad blocks and limit the drive to a virtual 30GiB capacity, which means the drive should be as good as the upper 50 % of blocks. A one-pass R/W test then finished 100% correct but I still only use it for non-critical files like movies.
100? I bought mine at 35!
35? I bought mine when i was 25 years old!
25? bro, I was born with it in my hands.
When you were born ? I had it when i was a fetus
I'm more concerned about this "You only need 8GB of RAM (shared between the system and GPU)" bit. Go 16 or go home. I would expect 32GB from a 4 figure laptop, considering Windows laptops 1/4 the price have better specs.
Why are you buying an Apple product if you're worried about affordability?
They're probably not buying but making fun of it. Which is the best approach, probably.
I'm making fun of it, you're right.
And, apple deserves easily 10x the mockery they get for these nonsense decisions.
Ram shouldn't soldered. But, if it has to be, it should be astronomically more than needed today. 8GB systems were insufficient in 2006, and unified memory controllers weren't the issue. My desktop has 64Gb of RAM and I can fully max that out effortlessly.
That's what gets me. Since you can't add more RAM or storage it's just so insulting to have an $1800 laptop with so little. If I wanted 24GB of RAM and 2TB of storage I'd be looking at $2600.
I remember looking at phones in the past and being blown away by 128GB of storage and 4GB of RAM because that was way more than I had in way more expensive desktops just a few years prior. It's so weird seeing a current phone shaft you less on memory/storage than a laptop.
Yeah, that's what finally tuned me from an Apple everything to Linux/Windows/Android/whatever works. Used to be standard, but the mac with the processor and screen you need, buy Ram and harddrive elsewhere and install right away. The old G5s with that huge case literally made it a selling point how use upgradable it was. iPod changed everything.
I used exclusively Macs and iPhones till the early 2010's. I had the original iMac and I eventually moved to a G4 and an intel iMac. That last iMac was such a pile of overpriced crap I killed two HDDs, the RAM, and the GPU. I went from knowing nothing but their ecosystem to never touching it in a year and I haven't gone back.
As ridiculous all these specs are, 8GB was enough for a graphic designers laptop in 2006, common.
apple selling ewaste for 1.8k? interesting. No one would be dumb enough to buy that right?
Right?
Did you know that laptops and phones have differences other than storage and memory?
The distinction is becoming a lot smaller these days. I can sync a Bluetooth keyboard to my phone and pull off quite a bit of fuckery that would typically require a laptop.
Yeah cellphones have way more functionality, webcam is 1000x better on the phone too
Elaborate?
Laptop bigger
Except in ram
Apple shamelessly sell a "pro" device with 8 GB of RAM.
This includes VRAM, too...
Back in the 90s Apple was going to die, so they decided to allow people to make Mac clones like you could make PC clones. After about a year they stopped that because the clone makers were running them out of business.
I used to build those Mac clones back in the mid to late 90s. We were building high-end video editing systems, and you could either get a PowerMac 9600 or one of the clones. I think we used Daystar (?) machines, and I remember they had this PCI expansion box where you could run a ribbon cable and add more PCI slots for additional cards. Wild west, crazy stuff.
pffft. just get the 1tb of storage and download more ram
You are literally comparing apples to oranges, my friend.
No clearly both of them are apples /s
Checking the commodity prices from apple and orange concentrate from the last 10 years apple concentrate trades even to +20 usd compared to oranges...how ya like them apples
"Looks in" homebuilt PC running Linux...
Not to ruin the joke too much, but the price discrepancy is likely due to economies of scale.
How so?