What’s next? Hopefully, Microsoft won’t start injecting a poll at shutdown demanding to know why I’m turning my PC off for the day.
Well, if you decide to run Windows Server, I have news for you...
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What, really? I was planning on learning Windows server for educational purposes and sysadmin skills....soon....probably.... some time soon...in the near future....hopefully.... maybe.... if I have time....
Jokes aside I was going to...one day... but this just completely turns me off. WHY? Why would I tell M$ and wby would I allow a piece of software running on MY Hardware to ask me for a reason to shut it down, the sheer f**king audacity. To quote John Malkovitch from that one scene in some show where a Windows update prevents people from stopping an asteroid, meaning Earth is screwed because Windows update: "FUCK MICROSOFT!!!!"
In fairness, it's so there's a log of why the machine was shut down. It's for the sysadmins in charge rather than Microsoft. In practice, most people just choose "Other" as the reason so it's fairly useless. I have no idea if there's a way to turn it off, though.
Okay, fair enough
Where are Windows servers actually being used? I've never come across one.
Exchange.
Exchange?
Microsoft Exchange. For running an email server. It's easily the most popular use for Windows servers.
i cringe so hard at how pathetic and ridiculous microsoft has become.
Literally the only reason why people still use windows is that everyone else writes their programs for windows. But let's be honest here. Out of the three big OS's (Win, Linux, MacOS) windows is by far the worst. Big developers have to start writing their software for Linux and windows will crumble very fast.
Devs follow the crowd, and its usually not the other way around unless theres a financial incentive (e.g valves position).
The easiest one is AI/ML. Devs could switch to linux and help make AMD better with open source drivers. Most of them continue to feed into the already existing CUDA network Nvidia created for devs. The major libraries for ML (e.g tensorflow) already have AMD backends, most devs just rather not do that work until its the mainstream.
I find for most day to day uses, there are already decent options available for Linux. There still needs to be a bit more polish for non technical users, but it's getting really close to being a viable mainstream option nowadays.
There's still a lack of professional software for music, photography and video production. It's not just a matter of there being a good tool; you want a good tool that's established and widely used in the industry. If some of the makers of professional software in these fields were to port their stuff to Linux, Linux's market share would grow and the momentum would prompt more software companies to do the same. But getting that ball rolling has proven hard for decades. Maybe as Windows becomes more and more frustrating, more ordinary users who don't need these particular tools will migrate and increase Linux's market share, causing software companies to take note. But people are quite used to putting up with a lot of nonsense on Windows.
This.
I just watched a video from The Linux Experiment about Linux not being suited for professionals. And for most people Linux is 100% suitable for their day to day work. I completely ditched Windows 2 years ago and never touched it again, but for graphic designers, editors, etc. etc. i think it's not that simple. Work that has to be collaborative with others need programs that let them work together. And in the current times the likes of adobe and autodesk completely dominate the scene and force users to stay with their programs...
This gives so many users another incentive to accept the bullshit of microsoft. I am so happy that i don't need a single program that is windows exclusive - i finally enjoy getting OS updates since i ditched that pile of garbage :-D
Bitwig Studio is great for music production and sound design.
Yes, I had forgotten about that one. Excellent software and it's great that they make it available for Linux.
Some people swear by Reaper too.
Reaper is also very good. How is VST compatibility with Linux DAWs these days?
I'm not sure to be honest. I'm still on windows but consciously trying to use Linux compatible software for when I eventually make the jump.
Bitwig's global modular design makes me not need many VSTs. XO drums apparently doesn't support Linux but there may be ways to run it still.
Pretty good, atleast for me. Almost all vsts I've downloaded work really well, windows vsts included with yabridge, sometimes the ui is janky (could be 'cause i use a tiling wm and pop-up windows don't agree with it) and a couple of random vsts don't work at all (includes both linux and windows vsts so idk if it's bad programming or a linux thing.) Reaper also has support for claps and lv2s which both work well.
I'd consider these niche use cases though. If you're working in a particular industry where you need to use a specific tool then you're stuck with whatever platform the tool's available on. However, apps that most people use day to day definitely exist. Personally, I'd also prefer it if Linux ecosystem wasn't primarily reliant on companies. I'd love to see polished open source software become the foundation, and commercial tools to be the exception for niche use cases.
Honestly, the use case with the least/worst options on Linux is CAD. Yes, FreeCAD is a thing but it's terrible and it's established userbase insists that actual modern CAD packages are unnecessary.
Apart from FreeCAD, there's a browser-based option that looks good, but most people won't use it because it forces everything designed on their service to be open-source.
needs to be a bit more polish for non technical users
There's a curve to this. If they're non technical enough, learning to use Linux for browsing Facebook is just as easy as learning windows. I've switched a handful of my older customers to Linux and they're my least needy customers now.
That's true, I've set up Linux for my parents before and it just worked since their use cases were very basic.
Give me all games and I'll jump ships immediately.
check out https://www.protondb.com/ if the games you want to play are supported. The number of unsupported games shrink by the day
Yeah, no. When and if Linux will support all games, then I'll get rid of Win.
Nowadays it's mostly anti-cheats refusing to run under wine/proton. This contains a helpful list of where they work and don't: https://areweanticheatyet.com
For me, my choice of platform is more important than my choice of game. Luckily the game I play, Minecraft, runs fine on Linux.
I don't play one game just as I don't read one book only.
I would also play many if I found games I liked, Space Engineers and Timberborn are on my Christmas list.
I have a long wishlist and some in my library I haven't already played. Same as with any other media: I have a book list, a movie list, a series one, some pieces I need to learn on the piano etc.
Is one of the options "because I fucking told you to"
or "none of your business"
"end process"
thats why.
My explanation is that I went to Pop_OS and never looked back.
How is it for gaming? Playing with Nobara right now
Hit or miss, buy a Steam deck lol
I already got one!
Oof. Not a good sign though for gaming
Guess a salty Linux user didn’t like what you had to say
I really think there's a huge potential market for companies like System76. This is basically the same model Apple has where they control the software and hardware stack to make sure everything works well together. Being able to just get a machine with Linux already set up, and everything working out of the box lowers the barrier for adoption significantly.
glad i got off of windows 10 before windows got worse. now i'm just sitting here laughing but also disappointed that people have to put up with let alone use this shit because it's the mainstream os
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Microsoft now wants you to explain exactly why you’re attempting to close its OneDrive for Windows app before it allows you to do so.
Neowin has spotted that the latest update to OneDrive now includes an annoying dialog box that asks you to select the reason why you’re closing the app every single time you attempt to close OneDrive from the taskbar.
Microsoft has been pushing OneDrive in Windows for years, with it taking over the Documents and Pictures libraries in Windows 11 by default to sync files to Microsoft’s cloud-powered storage.
This new behavior follows years of Microsoft’s demanding Edge prompts that appear if you dare to download Chrome or change your default browser.
Hopefully, Microsoft won’t start injecting a poll at shutdown demanding to know why I’m turning my PC off for the day.
If you want to avoid this latest OneDrive nonsense, then feel free to open Task Manager, search for Microsoft OneDrive, and end that task the old-school way.
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