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8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple::Following the unveiling of new MacBook Pro models last week, Apple surprised some with the introduction of a base 14-inch MacBook Pro with M3 chip,...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't disagree that the M processors need less RAM, but the idea that they need half as much is bullshit. My poor little 8GB M1 struggles with more than 20 chrome tabs open, and it especially struggles when running apps that aren't built to be M1 compatible (through Rosetta).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to use an m1 base air for school. The CPU was fast but ram was always at Ower 90 percent while doing almost nothing

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On my unix-based system, after boot I'm sitting at 2gb usage, while Windows would be at >6GB, so it's not that far fetched. Until you try to run any applications..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows only takes a lot of RAM if it's available. Try it out with less RAM and it's more around 2 GB I think.

For any computer I use 32 GB seems to be the optimum nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sitting at 300 mb usage after boot running Linux and at 250 mb usage on a secondary machine running OpenBSD.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

CrApple are just such hardcore money grabbers since pretty much forever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Apple is banking on some big companies ordering computers based on "Pro" moniker and that's the reason why 13" Macbook Pro existed at all. Now that it is gone, 14" base M3 is taking its place. It's likely to be running basic Excel and PowerPoint so that's okay for the end user but still mighty shitty of Apple to price gouge on RAM.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it’s true, but a better headline would be “our systems come with 16gb as standard, which feels like 32gb on windows.”

So you get a good amount of ram, which feels better because It’s a Mac.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“our systems come with 16gb as standard, which feels like 32gb on windows.”

while performing a task that can be done with 8gb easily

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the megabyte myth. Certainly haven't anything like that before...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memory compression does allow the os to store to cram more data in the RAM, but does 8gb RAM with memory compression really equivalent to 16gb of RAM?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windows compresses RAM too. It's really a combination of fast flash memory (Apple doesn't use SSDs, they put flash memory on the same package as the CPU) and being smart about moving things to flash memory if they don't benefit from being in RAM.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ok.. but PCs can also use zram.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

God damn fucking marketers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just a wild guess, I think they mean that the M3 chip can load and unload things so much faster that it doesn’t need as much ram to do regular tasks. Of course, if you are loading video renders into ram, it won’t really apply to it anymore.

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