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The Chrome team says they're not going to pursue Web Integrity but...

it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”

They say its because the team "heard your feedback." I'm sure that's true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.

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[–] [email protected] 322 points 1 year ago (23 children)

K, I'm still not using Google search engine anymore. And once I find a replacement for any other Google services and devices I have, it's out with those as well.

[–] [email protected] 203 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Android is opensource. You can get phones that support ROMs like LineageOS (would recommend a FairPhone) or /e/ (godawful name, good ROM) for example - you can buy the Murena phone for this.

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I'm really looking forward to Linux phones. Have been for years. It's sad that Mozilla and Canonicals ventures didn't pan out because both had really fun ideas. Hell I say they had the right ideas, it just wasn't the right time.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Leaving google isn't hard.

Leaving YouTube specifically, however... Well, it's been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is something I wrote in another thread earlier but it's relevant here too

A security guy popular in the internet, Ollam, recently left Delta's program because they are changing it to be more pay to play vs miles traveled or something. Delta walked it back but he's sticking to his guns. In his rant, he said something poignant. Something to the effect of "if your significant other raises their hand like they're gonna hit you, but they don't? The time to leave is now." (Video)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I replaced gmail with protonmail and everything else with nextcloud. Couldn't go back.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're just starting it smaller scale. Within a year it'll be pushed out to everyone broadly.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

This is literally going to be what they did for FLoC. Basically release it as topics.

Google absolutely cannot stop tracking everyone at this point. I'm pretty sure they've put the entire house on the bet to track people more and do everything to ensure that Google Chrome tracks every aspect of your web browsing experience.

So while WEI is dead, I think Google's boat is so far out to sea now that it's either try this again a bit more gently or watch the ship sink. Everyone said FLoC was dead and they absolutely put it into the web browser with Topics. Nothing convinces me this is any different, they are absolutely going to, and I dare say have an existential need to, put this shit in everyone's browser.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

They get the permissions for the little thing that is worded vaguely enough to them funnel people into the larger thing

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I'd like to believe that enough of us actually stopped using chrome and switched to Firefox the day they made that announcement that swayed them... But in reality I'm sure it was just the bad press and they're going to try to find a different more sneaky way to do the same shit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using Firefox since it was Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Amateur. I've been using Firefox since Netscape Navigator.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bet they'll just rename it later, like what they did with FLoC to Ad Topics.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What's funny is how these companies refer to ads as if it's something we should be excited about.

"Good news! We're implementing a new ad delivery feature for your enjoyment! You can now choose what ads to watch, yay!"

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

'Heard your feedback' is becoming the death flag of future fuckery these last few years

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

more like they realised that the Irish data protection officer looked like they were gonna side with privacy advocates over anti-adblock, which is a precursor (and main usecase of) this API

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That usually means they will have something worse at a later time.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

The most likely option is that they will rebrand and we will have to push back against a "completely new, completely different functionality" in a few months.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had some of those changes already checked into their code base. It'll be interesting to see how much of that code comes back out.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My money is on zero. They'll comment it out and then turn it back on when no one is looking.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago

The Advert People are easily startled, but they'll soon be back, and in greater numbers.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is your wake up to stop using Chrome and Chromium based browsers (e.g. Brave, Vivaldi, etc). Switch to Firefox if you haven't already.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago

Disgusting piece of craps! All should continue to open eyes, against google. They wont stop!

Spread the word to install firefox based browser, use different frontends to block youtube ads in browser, Invidious and use piped youtube apps on android to block youtbe ads: Newpipe

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago

This should never be left up to Chrome. We need antitrust laws.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We'll see how this shakes out in a year.

Eternal vigilance is the price for a free web.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the web has been getting so shitty lately i've actually gotten into drawing and reading and vinyl and film, which i highly recommend as a backup plan; just the idea of this feels like the atomic bomb for the internet

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mainstream web... yes.

The back of the house has never been fucking better. Mastodon changed the game. Why hang out at some asshole's website, hating the website, lacking features and full of advertisements to suck you dry, when you can just come down to the flea market of federated social media and shoot the shit with someone real?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

"Flea market of federated social media" is an awesome description!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Moving it to WebView just makes it a Trojan horse for the rest of the web.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The "don't be evil" motto was replaced with "don't be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And then later edited to

“~~don’t be evil, but~~ greedy and posessive is okay”

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care what Chrome does to fuck every single users possible, provided that it doesn't affect FF.

This integrity thing was one of the worst thing they could've ever come up with that would've definitely affect me.

Fuck them. Fuck with your own users. I ain't one.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

That's the problem. They could have made it a requirement for a site to work in Chrome. And since Chrome has such a majority sites would have to comply. Then the other browsers would have to fall in line or just stop working with most websites. Google's monopoly is complete enough that they can dictate how the web works. You need to both care what chrome does and care that other people are still using it or you're just as fucked as they are.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We've decided not to pursue Web Integrity API."

"Oh great! But what's that giant thing under the tarp behind you"

"Oh don't worry..."

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Floc returned as something else, we will see this come back I am certain

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

One small victory to fend off the cancer that is current year google.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You did it everyone! Good job!

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