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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I can't speak for all of Caucasia but I'm not offended.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, "if you're offended, lighten the fuck up, honky."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He got it wrong though. The shirt should says "CRACKERS".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.

Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Also not offended by this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You would be if they had stolen your home and pranced around in a caricature costume of you through the stadium they built after bulldozing your land

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's the point. They didn't do that to white people, so white people are in no position to be offended. Including me. Which is why I'm not only not offended, but find that highly appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

What is happening when white people are like "I'm not offended by this" is to minimize the offense that native Americans feel about the same thing.

As if to say "I'm not offended, why are they?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Me either, but it's actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except redskins is offensive. It's not the name of a group of people, it's an epithet describing them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren’t offended by Redskins name

It's offensive to gen z victim mentality complex people who want to define themselves through misery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Were you going to show us this poll or were you just going to expect us to believe that quote of yours isn't one you just made up?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I like to omit the source sometimes just to draw out lazy comments like yours. It really shows that you're not that interested but just want to argue. It's the title of an article from one of the most prominent newspapers out there, it'd be the first result if you simply pasted it in Google, but rather than save yourself the embarrassment, you chose this route.

Swing and a miss.

The article is even better than the title.

Among the Native Americans reached over a five-month period ending in April, more than 7 in 10 said they did not feel the word “Redskin” was disrespectful to Indians. An even higher number — 8 in 10 — said they would not be offended if a non-native called them that name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, it's not my job to find out whether or not you're lying.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

This is not about whether I'm lying or not, it's about you preferring to stay ignorant, which proves the point that you don't really care about the subject. If you want to close your eyes and pretend it's nighttime, then it's not my job to convince you otherwise.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you're trying to educate yourself that's exactly your job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should go harder IMHO. This ad from the National Congress of American Indians does a good job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah the only issue here is "Caucasians" is roughly similar in emotional weight to "native Americans."

Shirt should say like, "crackers" or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don't know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it's a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I very much like Mayo Monkies myself lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Eh.. folks from County Mayo might feel unfairly singled out.

I would have thought that if redskins is the settler pejorative for native americans then Paleface (or the like) is the thematic riposte.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Cracker doesn't even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn't carry much weight for the people it should.

Source: I'm literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I'm talking about just don't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named "Steve." It's just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is "Hi, I'm Steve, nice to meet you."

When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant "Hi, I'm Steve." The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.