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    [–] [email protected] 294 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Would be funny if it was true...but you never pay for OS updates on Mac.

    [–] [email protected] 147 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    lol i was about to say. Updates have been free since what , Lion? Lemmy is just hurr durr non Linux operating systems bad πŸ™„

    [–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yeah, it was Lion and even before then it was something like $35 to upgrade which was less than the cost to upgrade Windows at the time.

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This meme is older than Lion

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I’m pretty sure snow leopard was the last version you could buy physical media for at the very least because that’s the last version I have physical media for lol

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    [–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    You pay it by buying new hardware.

    My 2013 macbook pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD has been deprecated by apple so the latest OS it gets is Big Sur, it has now been barred from signing updates (since they require the latest XCode which I cannot get with Big Sur) so its only viable life is via Linux from now on.

    I have had to buy a Mac Mini with 8 GB of RAM and a 250 GB SSD to be able to upload updates for my iOS apps.

    I mean I can afford it, but yeah, we are paying for OS updates dude.

    That's the reason they also updated their EULAs to set a minimum renting period of 24hs for providers like Amazon and MacStadium. They want you buying hardware, they don't want to leave any easy way out.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There are still workarounds for getting new macOS on older not supported hardware (aka the OpenCore Legacy Patcher) which works very well, even with really old macs. But yes, of course, there are no official updates.

    That’s not an Apple problem per se though, that’s an industry problem. Windows 11 isn’t officially supported on Devices older than 2018 and unofficially not older than like 2015-ish, if you want full functionality and a non-hacky install (because of TPM 2.0). Also, most Android phones have a notoriously short period getting updates (although that is getting better with some manufacturers promising and delivering way more than before).

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know we all get off on a little Apple hate from time to time, why do so many of these things feel they need to make shit up? There's so much real shit they do that you could just make fun of

    [–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think this comic might have been from the era when you did have to pay for new versions of OS X… they stopped doing that around Lion I think in 2011 or so.

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    There was a time when you had to pay for the next major version. I think it went free around mountain lion or so?

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    And even then it was only $20. The last time it was over $99 was 16 years ago.

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    [–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So, what? We're just straight up making shit up about Mac now when trashing it on Lemmy?

    Its literally been over a decade since the last time Apple charged for an OS update

    [–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, that's cool - but it's still on the front page today

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

    I think it's important to consider that the joke was made over a decade ago before getting upset that it hasn't been accurate in over a decade.

    But yeah, OP probably could have included a date in the title and avoided some of this.

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    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And I believe they stopped charging for OS updates before Microsoft did, though I could be misremembering.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    They 100% did

    Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to gripe about with apple, just like every tech company, but I swear half the complaints I hear about Apple products on lemmy are either outdated or just plain wrong

    For some reason the anti-Apple circle jerk is supercharged on Lemmy. I'll never understand why people get themselves so worked up over a brand they never have to do business with

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I agree. I work in IT and often get asked what the best phone is when someone is looking. I tell them to go to the store and play around with a number of phones for a while. The one they seem to like best or are drawn to more is the one they should get. It makes 0 difference to me what brand of phone/pc/diapers/whatever someone else uses.

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    [–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Time to update the meme.

    1. windows: oh no, I was in a meeting!
    2. mac: oh no, I need a new mac for this to work!
    3. Linux: I'm afraid to install this, my graphics will probably break again!
    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I haven't had to touch xorg.conf in many years

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's been so long since X broke that most people won't know what you mean by xorg.conf

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    [–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There are high-schoolers alive today (maybe even in this thread) who were born after Apple stopped charging for updates. Maybe it's time to get some new jokes.

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    [–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    First I'm seeing it. That's the thing with reposts, the venn diagram of people who have seen it, and of people who have not seen it is rarely a circle.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Yeah but the punchline literally was aged out of existence 10 years ago, when Apple stopped charging for OS (upgrade or otherwise).

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This meme is from an older time when all of this was true.

    For all the people here commenting here about macOS updates being free forever, I guess they haven’t really used the OS long enough.

    https://www.wired.com/2013/10/apple-ends-paid-oses/

    Should the meme be updated before it is eventually reposted? Yes. But should it misinform people? No.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I remember paying for Snow Leopard and being excited about it. Apple is nothing if not great at marketing.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

    i remember snow leopard being only Β£25 and being ecstatic

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Windows: It's stuck again. Will force-reboot corrupt my system?
    Rolling-release distro: Cool! New features. ...5 programs just stopped working all together.
    Point-release distro: Let's see... under the hood improvements.
    Gentoo: I don't have time for this.
    LFS: I never planned to try updating it anyway.

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

    This comic is from a long time ago....

    Regardless, I'll accept it.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sweet I updated and broke my package manager and the system python. I guess I'll just reimage and start over.

    :shrugs:

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

    If you use all three long enough, you have the middle reaction to updates for all three.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Free software as in freedom of speech, not necessarily as in free beer. Maintainers also need to pay the bills.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I don't think I've ever sat there and thought "cool free stuff" when updating. More so annoyed as it reminds me that our systems at work should probably get updated.

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sweet I updated and gained more storage space!

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Mac user: I’ve never once paid for a system update and am wildly confused by this meme.

    And hardware support continues for so long I’ve never had a machine be unable to run a new OS before I already needed a new machine (I used my β€˜08 MacBook Pro for a solid 10 years no problem).

    I feel like some of y’all have never used an Apple machine before.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

    You had to pay for OS X updates before, but they changed that around 15 years ago. I remember paying I think $60 to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

    They used to charge for OS upgrades about 10 years ago, back when it was still called OSX.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I get the general point. Apple apps are more often paid and at a higher price generally. But Mac OS has been free forever. And when they did charge it was waaaaay cheaper than Windows

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

    Enterprise Linux: "we updated last night. We'll probably reboot this weekend. No cause for alarm."

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