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Vladimir Putin peace terms slammed at Ukraine summit (www.bbc.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Leaders from Italy and Germany called the Russian president's plan "propaganda" and "dictatorial".

Archived version: https://archive.ph/TkjNS

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

SLAMMED!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Come on and slam!! 🏀🐰

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Hope they followed up with a BLAST.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Back in my day, "slammed" meant something. I don't remember wtf it was... But it meant something

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I kinda always knew it as rough sex.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni called the Russian president's plan "propaganda" which effectively suggested that Ukraine "must withdraw from Ukraine".

sounds like vlad

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

slaaaaaamed i tell you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Literally, I hope?

[+] [email protected] -9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The guy who banned elections, calling the guy who just had elections a dictator.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol do you really believe the elections in Russia are fair in the slightest?

He literally assassinated his opponents.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's also the small fact that Zelensky has not banned elections.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He just banned his opposition from running in them. Certainly not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Sure, if you ignore that it's actually the Ukrainian constitution suspending the elections and also ignore that most opposition MPs have not been banned from anything

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Ukrainian constitution specifically does not permit elections during martial law. He is following the law of the country that was already in place before his administration

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nazis also followed the law. It just so happened that they were Nazi laws.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, so "following the law" is not a value judgment one way or the other. It depends on whether the law is just. However, the accusation here is that Zelenskyy is a dictator because he banned elections. This is simply untrue; he did not make that decision.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, he's a dictator because he banned opposition parties, lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is not even slightly weird or dictatorial to ban parties that are cooperating with an invading army, and the parties that got banned are not even a majority of the opposition members of the parliament

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, no dictator has ever used "aiding the enemy" as an excuse. 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Dictators have a done a thing" alone does not make the thing dictatorial, and at no point did I say "dictators never do this, therefore it is not dictatorial". Are you really trying to argue that acting against literal wartime treason makes someone a dictator? If not, you're going to need more of an explanation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Oh look, a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Meloni loved Mussolini so much she joined his biggest fanclub and Germany and the US are engaged in an actual genocide. They're all in a "peace summit" where one of the two parties that needed to be peaced was not invited. Are you sure you're not the nazi supporting this charade in the name of peace?

Also lol at your peace summit where many of the countries that were invited refused to sign the concluding statement after the belligerent parties spit on an extremely generous peace offering.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'm sorry, what exactly was generous about Russia's peace offering of "give us a tonne of land"?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

War is peace, ignorance is strength, nazis are heroes, nazi killers are nazis

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm a communist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Well according to your favorite person Putin you can call anyone a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They will say that the Ukrainian constitution forbids elections under martial law, when in fact this is only for the Verkhovnaya Rada, and not the Presidential post. And besides, it's not like the constitution told Zelensky he should ban the opposition parties lmfao.

Liberals will spread misinformation like wildfire because their American-propagandized worldview depends on it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's both. Article 11 part 2.3 of this, translated below:

In the event that the term of office of the President of Ukraine expires during martial law, his powers shall be extended until the newly elected President of Ukraine, elected after the abolition of martial law, takes office.

This part was added by the Verkhovna Rada in December 2022, within their original term and also Zelenskyy's.