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[–] [email protected] 118 points 4 months ago (8 children)

"The ban was imposed by the Trump administration"

But please, gun enthusiasts, tell me again about how Biden is going to take away all of your guns any day now whereas Trump is 2A all the way.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Diaper Don, the "Take away their guns and worry about the due process later" guy? That Donald Trump, right?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Donald Trump, the convicted felon who admits he still has a gun he has not surrendered as is required of convicted felons?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Refresh my memory, was he talking about black people?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If memory serves, the Obama administration (the one far right was screaming for 8 years was going to take away all the guns) specifically looked at bump stocks and said they were legal.

Trump freaked out at the Las Vegas shooting and pushed the ban ASAP.

"Take away their guns and worry about the due process later”

Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Biden and the dems are not 2a friendly...but neither is any repub or trumpers. Both are true.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Bumpstocks are oldshit in comparison to "super safeties." They push the trigger forward after you shoot. So you just squeeze, and you get quick individual trigger pulls at close to an automatic rate. It's also easier to aim. Also, it's a tiny piece you can 3d print. Also, I'm NOT linking it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Hellfire triggers too...

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (7 children)

The ban on bump stocks was implemented using the Firearms' Owners Protection Act of 1986. Which was signed into law by Reagan (funny how a failed assassination will change things).

The text at issue is

SEC. 109. AMENDMENT OF NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT. (a) Section 58450)) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(b)) is amended by striking out "any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun," and inserting in lieu thereof "any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun,"

IMO the majority in this decision is choosing to blatantly ignore the text of the act which was clearly chosen to future-proof for any advancement which would result in an effortless high rate of fire such as bump stock and super safety. Instead they are insisting that Congress must amend the law to include specific parts which of course is a losing battle as there will always be a new part that achieves an effortless high rate of fire.

Now where one could argue that this ruling is correct is the accepted definition of a machinegun requires a single trigger action.

26 U.S.C. § 5845(b)

Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger

Personally I think the laws should be amended to define weapons and munitions by their result (high or continuous rate of fire) instead of their form or function. As it stands, someone could create a weapon that simply fires continuously but does not resemble a gun in any other way. Would such a weapon be a machinegun if it doesn't even have a trigger?

I think the dissenting opinion was more inline with the intent of FOPA.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They don't need to ban specific parts, and in fact they shouldn't. They could ban anything designed to accelerate rate of fire.

I don't think anyone is going to build a triggerless pseudo-machine gun. You could build one where, when you close the action, it fires until it's out of ammo, but that's not very controllable. See also: slamfire.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So can hunter biden buy a bump stock now? I am shocked that the NRA was not representing hunter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He probably could, but he can't buy a gun to put on it so what he's got is a funny shaped ineffective club.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for gun control, though, I feel like banning bump stocks won't do much. Aren't they incredibly easy to make?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Yea, your belt loop makes a great one.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Of course they do. If it destabilizes society snd increases mortality in any way, its on their agenda

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I got a bunch of leaves and my neighbor too. He's very rich. Can we please just burn all the leaves? The smoke will go east and there's nothing there, just a hospital and a premature baby nursery. I assume this is okay by the supreme court. Oh and we want to do it naked and we want to pop our guns into the fire. You know, for 4th of July stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The Supreme Court could find this but couldn't find abortion.

Ok then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bump stocks are largely irrelevant since the invention of Hellfire Triggers:

It's essentially a "bent piece of metal". I don't see how you could control that.

https://youtu.be/eUFkh7QKs1Q

Which can even be applied to pistols:

https://youtu.be/teoGHEPqd04

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