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Japan’s automakers are keeping sports cars alive in the EV era::The Japan Mobility Show in Tokyo saw the debut of five different electrified sports cars, ranging from production-intent coupes to outrageous concept supercars.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I guess Chevy, Audi, BMW, Ford, and Porsche don't exist. Jesus Christ how can a writer be so ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

how can a writer be so ignorant.

They probably know exactly what they're doing. Singling out Japan makes for a "better" headline to a mostly North American audience.

It's also a bit of a clever headline. Compare the original headline and this one: "All major automakers continue to produce sports cars". Both headlines could technically be true.

But the original headline lets you get away with stirring up some emotion e.g. "Japan alone is keeping the sportscar industry afloat, European, American manufacturers don't care, sportscars are dying". Life, death: strong words! It's misleading and shitty journalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

"Multiple Japanese car manufacturers unveil new electric sports cars."

Modern journalism sucks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The article is about the Japanese auto industry and you’re getting mad they’re not talking about all the other countries?

Do you go into articles on baseball and complain they’re not covering basketball?

Or was this subtle trolling?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Keeping alive", meanwhile everyone does the same thing. Many before the lagging Japanese auto industry 🤣

It says it in the article and it's dumb and sensationalist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FTA:

Electric sports cars from other high-end brands like Audi, Lotus, and Mercedes-AMG are still years away, with no concepts to even give us a taste of what to expect, while supercar companies like Ferrari and McLaren are only just starting to talk about making EVs.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

I've already addressed this hours ago. It's a sensationalist headline and dumb.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

E-Ray, e-tron GT RS, any of the i cars (except the i3), Mach-E GT, Taycan…. Yup, no EV sports cars in there, none at all. You’re write the writer had a baiting headline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Are we really calling the Mach-E a sports car?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Or even the taycan, It weighs 2 tonnes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. Fast yes, but so is the Saleen F-150 and it is not a sports car either by any stretch of imagination. Or an Audi Q7 V12 TDI, or even a Civic Type R.

A sports car has different qualities than being fast, namely feeling fast. That's how the MX-5 has always managed to be called a sports car despite not being a fast car really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

the MX-5 is also one of the most raced cars out there

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you want to be pedantic you're going to need a new definition for sports car. Every single one of these is going to be a fat pig, with dead steering, and shitty sound. They'll be fast and soulless. The shape doesn't matter. If you want the classic definition of sports car, you basically have the Miata, brz, and a few supercars.

If you take a more open definition based on cars with performance you can track, then yes the mach e is as much a sports car as an M5, ct5v, mustang, etc. A 4000 lbs rx7 with a small rotary is as far from an actual sports car as you can get.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If we're being pedantic, those are sports sedans and sporty SUVs. Minus the E-rau which is a hybrid(?) If you were to ask me to think of a sports car my minds going straight to 2-door coupe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, and Toyota all revealed show-stopping sports car concepts that feature fully electric or hybrid powertrains, with each brand committing to keeping enthusiast segments alive amid the global EV transition.

Electric sports cars from other high-end brands like Audi, Lotus, and Mercedes-AMG are still years away, with no concepts to even give us a taste of what to expect, while supercar companies like Ferrari and McLaren are only just starting to talk about making EVs.

There’s also the Sustaina-C concept, a small hatchback made from recycled acrylic resin, and the CI-MEV, an autonomous microcar for elderly people who can’t walk, drive, or easily take public transit.

A two-door coupe with swan-wing doors, a fixed roof, and what presumably is a liftback glass hatch, Mazda describes the Iconic SP as a car that “embodies the joy of driving.” It’s perfectly proportioned, with wonderfully sculpted, super wide fenders, an extremely sloping hood and low nose, and minimal surfacing frippery.

The Hyper Force’s multitude of screens move around the driver depending on drive mode, shifting colors and showing different information, and when the car’s not in motion, it can be used as a VR gaming setup.

Toyota says it shares a modular architecture and many components with the brand’s other next-gen EVs, including a gigacasted body and new prismatic battery cells that are slimmer and mounted behind the occupants to give it mid-engine weight distribution and handling characteristics.


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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ghastly cars from nissan subaru and toyota. Amazingly ugly. The mazda is inoffensive, but less iconic than the honda e sportscar from a few years back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I like the Mazda. It basically looks like what I would have pictured as a "futuristic Miata" a few years back. I will say I'm more interested because of its power train though.

But when I say "more interested" I just mean it's cool. I'm 6'6, no chance I would fit in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the power train is the #1 reason I dislike the Mazda. They tease bringing back rotary engines, only for them to be a gimmick. It doesn’t look awful, and does stay fairly true to Mazda styling. The back looks like a Ferrari, but overall it isn’t ugly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm a big fan of series hybrids. PHEVs are great for alleviating range anxiety but parallel PHEVs can be sluggish if the battery is depleted. Building a sports car series hybrid seems like a great option to get you the awesome performance off the line of an EV while handling the range anxiety concerns so many people have.