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[–] [email protected] 98 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Obligatory elan.school. Shit is fucked up and it’s child abuse for profit and sometimes paid for by tax dollars.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also The Program on Netflix. It’s a really well put together documentary made by one of the students at a similar school.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

My SO went to that program and deals with lifelong trauma from that place. They’re constantly telling me about another person that went through the program with them that committed suicide. It’s really depressing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ho. Lee. Shit.

I've been reading this over the past few days since you posted it, I'm on chapter 69, and just wanted to thank you for sharing it. This is the most insane mind-fuck, eye opening read I've ever read. Even just experiencing this story 2nd hand through the words of the author is absolutely soul crushing. I can't even begin to imagine what these kids have gone through.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I know! Someone else shared it and it has really stuck with me. I share it any time it’s relevant because his experience wasn’t that long ago and they aren’t the only ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

hey I read that not too long ago. helluva ride.
wouldn't want to be there though

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago

I was sent to a facility like this in Utah as a teenager. After completing a "wilderness program". I have basically blocked out a large part of my teen memories as a result.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Paris Hilton's experience in Provo where she dealt with assault. Apparently these places are so unregulated, that there's basically no regulations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

these places are so unregulated, that there's basically no regulations.

Isn't that just "unregulated"? "Completely unregulated"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I mean sure, if you wanna split hairs. Maybe underrgulagted was a better choice, but that's harder to mobile swipe / type.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

How many more need to die more the FBI launches a real investigation? These crimes go over state lines and some are even transnational like Atlantis Leadership academy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like...overnight? It'd be kinda creepy if they were watching her sleep in fairness

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There is plenty of room to debate tradeoffs in patient care. However, the policy was to perform a check every 15 minutes overnight. Not great for sleep quality and, all else being equal, a net negative for mental health. However, it does prevent a long tail of serious negative outcomes (such as, potentially, this death). There are a bunch of healthcare circumstances where sleep quality is sacrificed in favor of other concerns.

In this particular case, in addition to all of the normal concerns the facility would have, this girl was:

  • on a new medication
  • nauseous
  • unwell enough that she cut a phone call short to go to bed early (which sounds like was out of character for her)

Those are all red flags that her condition should be monitored closet than normal.