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Zombie Survival

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Discussion about the hypothetical scenario of a zombie apocalypse.

Unless stated otherwise, by zombie we're refering to The Walking Dead -kind of undead creature.

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Ofcourse a 5 meter tall concrete wall would be ideal but good luck building that in the middle of the apocalypse. What do you feel like would be the next best option?

My personal choice currently would be to find rolls of 2 meters tall steel wire fence, locate a secluded hilltop somewhere in the woods near water and pull the fence tight between living trees and finish it with barbed wire on the top, mostly in case of other survivors trying to sneak in.

I'd start by securing a small, maybe 5m x 5m perimeter as the starting point. This can be accomplished in a day and I now have a safe place to sleep in. When I obtain more fencing I would start building a second layer around the first one with about 3 meters of space in between and as my camp grows and I get more supplies I would just keep building additional layers. If there are longer stretches of fence between trees I would add additional posts as well as 45 degree supports to prevent a horde from pushing it over.

Wire fence like this comes with atleast 2 additional benefits of being able to see thru it as well as enabling you to kill zombies thru it with a spear.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha

A sunken fence with bungi sticks would be the gold standard.

Start off with any barrier you can get, make a 50m clearing on the outside of the fence. Over time dig a haha on the exterior of the fence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While bungi (bunji?) sticks could be entertaining, I’m not sure that’s the effect you’re after. I think you meant pungi sticks?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

isnt any fence in zombo apocalypse depend on how high they can stack at each other?

a group of dozens zeke can easily overcome 3 meters fence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

While higher is always better, I still feel like 2 meters is adequate. Zombies can't climb and I'd assume that if one falls it would just get back up. While plausible, I don't think they would start piling up and climbing on top of each other. Most likely they would just start pushing up against the fence and given enough of them they could easily push over a weak fence. That's why additional supports on the back would be vital. Most likely though you wouldn't encounter hordes in the woods. Just occasional individual ones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're correct. But that could apply to any barrier of any height.

In any serious survival situation, I would expect people to employ defense in depth. An exterior fence would just be the first layer of the onion, then you would have an interior fence, then you have a secured building, then you'd have a secured rooms inside the secure building, then you'd have multiple escape passages.

If anyone were to fail, there would be backup options.

A well thought out and constructed barrier is going to be part of anybody's defense plan. Even if it's not perfect

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would think the 5th one (big logs) hopefully you have plentiful lumber to build it. From there you would want to build another about 6 feet behind and fill in between with dirt. Pack it down and it would tolerate the pressure of zombies pushing against it. You would also have a platform above them. This would be very time consuming to build though. As long as you aren't dealing with fast or smart zombies it should be doable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How do you move those logs without machinery? Obviously it can be done because thousands of homesteaders did it in the wild West. I just don't know how they did it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Pack animals like oxen or mules. Maybe a 2 wheel cart that you put one end on so its easier to drag. Definitely not a job for one person

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a few YouTube channels (I don't have them on hand) where the creators make videos of them using old style tools and methods to move massive materials just by exploiting leverage. It might be of interest to you if you Google it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah I actually looked it up after posting and they weren't usually one man jobs. Occasionally they were, but it required creativity and was a laborious task. They used teamwork, leverage, come-alongs, winches, pulleys, and livestock. I have this image in my head of a solo frontiersman building himself a log cabin. I think it's probably from watching Jeremiah Johnson when I was a kid. It did happen, but it was rare. I suppose if anyone could do it, it would be that tough sumbitch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Realistically I think I could build the top right.

Ideally I’d want the bottom left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a solid choice as well. Finding and transporting steel wire fencing would not be trivial especially since the kind of places that sell that are often hotspots for looters. For a log fence you basically only need a saw, an axe, steel wire and pliers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You don't even need steel wire. Frontiersmen built them with nothing but an axe, a shovel, and logs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

2nd on 2nd row, but with a moat full of piranhas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Counterpoint: boat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

In pic, bottom right is best

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Top right with sharp edge for the wood log. Later you could stab it with glass shard.
But it would take time, if you have the materiel top left would be quicker to get a quick start. But it will only slow down a single zombie maybe reoriented if you are quiet and your kind of zombie can detect heat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

A fence of a few Canadian Geese is all you need.