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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/17713203

“Backed by two powerful house leaders, the proposed “Legislative Proposal to Sunset Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act” would eliminate the protections granted to internet platform providers under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. “

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also, when can we get Internet over Radio? Good luck stopping waves bouncing off the stratosphere. Such a tech would immediately end censorship and lawfare using physics and science.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Mesh networks have been made using ham radios! It's not ready for the general public since you need a ham operators lisence & their range is limited by line of sight. But if you own a large property, you can network your own space using the tech. It's also a good back up in the case of a large scale infrastructure disruption.

Heres a link :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are there any papers or sources on this? Of course it would be very slow, but I'd be interested to see what proposals exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm aware of 802.11 lol, But i'm wondering about papers or sources talking about the feasibility/usability of bouncing it off of the ionosphere using something like shortwave to achieve the objective originally stated.

What makes 802.11 effective is that it exists in the GHz band and as a result it can move a lot of data very quickly, but you need a low frequency to allow a radio signal to be reflected back to earth without escaping into space instead, so speeds would suffer greatly. Just wondering if there are proposals on how to make it usable in the low frequency bands so that you could reflect it back to earth and also not have to wait 7 years for an image to load.

Furthermore for this to work you would need a relatively high powered radio setup on your end to send messages back to the source youre receiving from if you don't intend to just receive data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-range_Wi-Fi

:D

I'll see if i can find something specifically about what you are asking, but I would be surprised if anyone has taken the time to try to bounce WiFi. The wavelength might not be amenable to bouncing, as it is such a high frequency signal. If I recall correctly, there is a relatively narrow range of wavelength that will actually bounce back to earth off of the atmosphere.

edit: https://radiojove.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/activities/iono.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Awesome, this is just what i was looking for, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Paywalled article; nuke it and move on unless there's either an archive link or a rehost on somewhere that doesn't cater to capitalists

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good catch, I add archive links to everything, but doing it by hand right now, so sometimes I miss them.

Sorry about that.

Planning on writing a script or something to handle archiving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sorry about that.

No worries. The archive.ph link gave me a Google reCAPTCHA to solve 😱 but the original link was perfectly readable for me. What were the paywall comments about, was it a non EU thing ?

To extend the link collection here's a WayBackMachine one :