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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People need to start accepting the necessity of geoengineering. Net zero by 2050 is a pure fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know how easy geoengineering is to fuck up? And how global and severe the consequences are if we do? Plus, geoengineering is the kind of thing one country, or a billionaire moron on a private island, could do, and kill us all. I’m not saying there’s no place for geoengineering, only that the only reasonable place for it is after pretty much everything else has failed. We really don’t need or want The Year Without A Summer on repeat for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what are the consequences of failing to deal with climate change? At some point, the option becomes unavoidable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, if everything else fails. But continuing our current rate of consumption and assuming geoengineering will save us (which, let’s be real, is the intention of most geoengineering supporters) is insane. I don’t oppose developing the tech. I oppose using it until we’ve tried everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you are simply not aware of the situation. We have “tried everything else.” It has basically failed already. There is no chance we can stop emissions in the timeframe desired. Geoengineering is already the only possibility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We haven’t tried shit. We’ve continued to operate as if there are no limits to the biosphere. I’m very aware of the situation, which is the only reason I don’t reject geoengineering out of hand. Mao thought ecoengineering by killing all the sparrows would increase crop yields. It did not end well. I simply don’t want that on a global scale.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're missing the part about time. There is nothing that can be done in time to stop the problem. We've already tried everything that could actually work in a short amount of time. Geoengineering is the only thing left.

The rest of your argument is a strawman argument. There's nothing to defend there.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Net zero is a lie that is impossible to achieve with the stated methods, in the timescale necessary to avert disaster.

https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to-the-apocalypse-7790666afde7

We're hitting 2-3c above the 20th average by 2050 —agriculture will collapse and billions will stave, hyperinflation, resource wars, wet-bulb heatwaves that kill millions — all are highly probable. Plan accordingly, don't have kids, etc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Highly probable my arse

If your source is Medium, I suggest you look elsewhere

This tool spouting nonsense about 2050 is about as reliable as actual mediums

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What temperature rise do you think we'll be seeing by 2050?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But you very confidently trash other poster's predictions, so you should have some sort of basis on which to reject those predoctions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So a guy who knows shit about the science and doesn't read articles, confidently proclaims the narrative he's been fed...

Classic!