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FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote::FCC issues Notice of Proposed Rulemaking over Republican objections.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good news. But let's not forget with this one in particular, this battle will probably not end in our lifetimes. We let down our guard, and support for net neutrality starts to waver, it'll get attacked again. Maybe in a different way.

This one takes a lot of vigilance and determination to keep. It won't stay permanently "won" any time soon, despite the breadth of the coalition of sorts that supports it. There's just too much money that could be made on the other side, creates a lot of pressure.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will only last until the next Republican administration. Elections have consequences. Vote.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

If another Republican administration happens, it will be the last you ever see, because they will seize power as the fascist they are. So yes, never stop voting. We simply can't allow it to happen anymore.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Always assume nothing in politics and law is "permanent". You never know when you're gonna get backstabbed, even if you like the people in power.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Needs to be a law much harder that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And even then... roe v wade

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sadly it will roll back as soon as the next republican takes office. The elastic shit show of American politics continues

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Possibly, but the trend of American elections where we'd typically see 8 years of one candidate being president then switching to the other party for 8 years is likely over now. The average boomer has started retirement, and the young voters replacing them are increasingly left wing given the last 20 years of failures from U.S geopolitics in regions like the Middle East or even domestic issues like how fewer and fewer people can own a home.

Historically, the midterm elections should have been a right wing blowout, especially with the economy in its current state.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can't forget that a lot of their voters died from Covid because they thought veterinary medical supplies would help them fight it or that is was a hoax.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely, the margin of votes needed to win in swing states is only 2%, where the mortality rate of COVID if you're old is 10%, Republican counties are around 30-70% more likely to spread covid

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I have so much hope for gen-z. My eggs are all in their basket.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

given the last 20 years of failures from U.S geopolitics in regions like the Middle East or even domestic issues like how fewer and fewer people can own a home.

Probably domestic issues only. Only right wing cares about geopolitics.

Also this is world-wide trend.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well, yes, but at the same time, companies will likely hedge and adopt a conservative (in the context of regulatory compliance) business model that complies with the new regulations (which may be on-again/off-again due to political changes) just to simplify matters. Switching how your business works every time the presidency flips parties has real financial disadvantages. In the long run, it’s very likely more profitable if they pick one approach and stick with it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

let's zoom out a bit: this thing where every incoming administration changes the rules that the prior administration established is probably worse than either of the rules being permanent. Don't get me wrong, please. This is, as Richard Lewis put in in Robin Hood: Men In Tights, "a good change". But it seems like the rules are constantly changing and that can't be good for people who are actually making a good faith effort to follow them. Doubly so because this article says that ISPs are going to sue to stop this rule change, and that while courts of the past have ruled that the rules say that this rule can be a rule they might rule that this rule cannot, by the rules, be a rule, overturning their previous ruling on the rules surrounding the rules.

But don't worry, if republicans ever win again they'll just make "republicans win" the rule. That will make things very simple.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only is it one party reverting the changes the other made, but it's almost always along party lines. Drives me crazy as no real change will happen so long as Dem are playing defense forever

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That... Is the point of conservatism right? No progress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True, but until there's more than two parties or the Deme start being more aggressive the regressive party will always win long term

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

this thing where every incoming administration changes the rules that the prior administration established is probably worse than either of the rules being permanent.

I mean... Republicans' rule is objectively bad. Confusion over the rule is not good, but also prevents the bad rule. Maybe I'm weird, but "not bad" seems better than "bad," right?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

T-Mobile users; be aware that T-Mobile has prepared for this and are trying to automatically transition grandfathered accounts with unlimited everything into their new plans.

I'm not 100% sure if the coverage of the new plans are technically worse, but they're definitely more expensive. And I wouldn't be surprised if the new plans had contact language to do a rug pull in the future.

You need to opt out of the transition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I used the phone app and started a chat. Here's what I asked, and their response:

https://i.imgur.com/dcbBes4.png

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this is good information to share this has nothing to do with the net neutrality stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I might be mistaken then, but doesn't part of Net Neutrality mean that telecommunication companies can't throttle unlimited plans?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's T-Mobile have to do with net neutrality?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

They are an ISP, you know what net neutrality applies to?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Federal Communications Commission today voted to move ahead with a plan that would restore net neutrality rules and common-carrier regulation of Internet service providers.

In a 3-2 party-line vote, the FCC approved Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), which seeks public comment on the broadband regulation plan.

The proposal would reclassify broadband as a telecommunications service, a designation that allows the FCC to regulate ISPs under the common-carrier provisions in Title II of the Communications Act.

The plan is essentially the same as what the FCC did in 2015 when it used Title II to prohibit fixed and mobile Internet providers from blocking or throttling traffic or giving priority to Web services in exchange for payment.

The Obama-era net neutrality rules were eliminated during Trump's presidency when then-Chairman Ajit Pai led a repeal that reclassified broadband as an information service, returning it to the less strict regulatory regime of Title I.

Title II regulation isn't just about net neutrality, Rosenworcel said, arguing that the reclassification will give the FCC more authority to protect national security on broadband networks.


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