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Looking Up an NYPD Officer’s Discipline Record? Many Are There One Day, Gone the Next. (www.propublica.org)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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ProPublica has found the NYPD site for allowing the public to track officers’ misconduct is shockingly unreliable. Cases against officers frequently vanish from the site for days — sometimes weeks — at a time. The issue affects nearly all of the officers in the database, with discipline disappearing from the profiles of patrol officers all the way up to its most senior uniformed officer.

ProPublica examined more than 1,000 daily snapshots of the database’s contents and found that, since the fall of 2022, the number of discipline cases that appear in the database has fluctuated often and wildly. Try to pull up the record for a disciplined officer and the site sometimes spits back, “This officer does not have any applicable entries.”

Since May 2021, at least 88% of the disciplinary cases that once appeared in the data have gone missing at some point, though some were later restored. As of this week, 54% of cases that had at one point been in the system were missing.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The federal government is supposed to be going after cops for this...

But both parties are pro police/anti protestor while in power, so it never gets done.

When BLM was going on, Dems kept telling everyone "these police abuses would never happen if we were in charge, we love protestors!"

Which was always bullshit, no sitting president has ever been cool with being protested.

So now Biden and other Dems like Erik Adams are spreading bullshit propaganda about protestors like Republicans did with BLM.

It's the worst time possible for Biden to show he's a hypocrite that doesn't care what his voters want. But the alternative is doing the bare minimum to stand up to Israel, and Biden isn't prepared for that

The most is threatening to pause shipments of a few specific giant bombs if Israel expands their genocide instead of just maintaining it.

He's either a complete idiot, or just doesn't care if trump becomes president.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You don’t have to find a way to shoehorn Biden, Democrats, and Israel into every topic just to further your agenda. It’s slimy, and we all see it.

This is a failure of the NYPD. As of June 2020, what they are doing is against the law. Plain, simple, and devoid of politics.

The repeal of Section 50-a of the state Civil Rights Law in June 2020, which had shielded all police discipline records from public view, was intended to offer the public, including journalists, a way to scrutinize the quality of police departments' self-policing.

https://www.police1.com/legal/articles/pds-cannot-automatically-withhold-disciplinary-reports-involving-unproven-complaints-ny-court-rules-NivEwo9H3ohK2RJW/

The only relevant part of your rant is Mayor Adams, who needs to hold them accountable.

[–] yolo 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to find a way to shoehorn Biden, Democrats, and Israel into every topic just to further your agenda. It’s slimy, and we all see it.

Your attempt to deflect the limelight away from Biden and administration is what's most slimy and I've seen this cult like behavior elsewhere as well (Election campaign push?).

Keep kissing that ass to paint him as a good person, we all see through it.

And yes, Fuck Trump too, if you were deciding to try and deflect using the textbook deflection tactic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What exactly does the President have to do with the NYPD compromising their records? I’d say the same thing if Trump were in office. It’s a city police force. The mayor is responsible for holding them accountable. If the mayor didn’t, it would be the governor who’s charged with the responsibility. The amount of people that think the president directly oversees everything in this nation is a clear indicator of the failure of our education system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See how far a mayor gets when they decide to try to buck the NYPD. Deblasio tried to do moderate changes and they basically made it impossible for him to do anything. And you're implying that the NYPD is somehow an exception when it comes to how police forces operate in the US, as opposed to the norm. It's a problem that needs to be fixed federally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That’s a different issue altogether, and I wholeheartedly agree. Our training system absolutely needs addressing. My point above is that the police do not respond to direction of the President, nor are they held accountable by him. The Mayor oversees local law enforcement, and the Governor oversees State Police. The only way the President is permitted to instruct those bodies is during a declared National Emergency.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Someone make a mirror that just compiles anything ever posted to the db?

Fuck em. I mean we can use waynackmachine or whatever else for now, but that's a dirty practice we can fight with the first amendment. And we should.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Right, I feel like this should be fairly simple, though I'm notsure. A daily snapshot or something that pulls everything into a database and tracks changes. I'm sure on the admin side they have all of the information, but it needs to be public.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean a naive approach is to just run a script that cats the whole page every 10s and compares it against the previous version, and keep all the changes in some kind of git repo.

Then have a website be the resulting merge of all those commits.

Or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

did none of you actually read the post you're commenting on?

what a silly question, no of course not.

there's a git repo linked right there in the post.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ironically, there isn't a single question in this entire comment thread before your own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

my friend, the very first sentence from YOU that started this thread ends in a question mark.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's basically what they did in the article. Maybe ProPublica could make this info public down the line, they obviously have the capability.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

What do you expect when we allowed them to enforce themselves? Honesty?