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[–] [email protected] 157 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

No, you are not. these people must've masturbated, hence they're sinful.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or they wore mixed fabric clothing, so they're basically satan

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, so all this time I should have been going full denim?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Including your underpants. And socks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But you just created them. The whole of their lives they have been tied to that track the way a character is trapped in the holodeck. When have they had time to sin?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

According to the 20 commandments that i just made up-

drop one stone tablet

10 commandments that i just made up, thou shall not question the decision of god, hereby you're sinned.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Nice reference drop there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Jesus said imagining adultery is the same as committing it. They can still think, ergo they are worthy of punishment

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So... Christianity has thought crimes?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Property is theft in the same way that religion is sin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. What he was saying is that everything you do starts off as a thought. So instead of policing your own actions, police your own thoughts and don't entertain the bad ones when they enter your mind. Then when the opportunity presents itself - let's say she indicates she's up for a quickie behind the bike sheds, if you've already been fantasising about all the different scenarios you're much more likely to take her up on it than if you haven't. Therefore you should consider thinking about adultery as being just as bad as the act itself, even though it really isn't.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so... thought crimes then?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Suddenly, you find yourself together with the people on the tracks.*

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

-embrace sweet death

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They should just repent for existing, if they can't even do that they're basically just asking for the train

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I sin multiple times per day but it's ok because I always make sure to kill god first.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aren't they from birth sinful?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Imminent death and dismemberment is my kink

the simulation we are all trapped in resets as they now need to include a provision that no weird af kinks screw up the test

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then when they all believe, you change the rules because you accidentally spawned to many people.

God: "I can only save some of you!"

People: "How many?"

God: "Twelve.."

People: "Twelve?!? But there are many more of us"

God: "Times 12..."

People: "144?!? But there are still many more!"

God:"... thousand."

People "Oh lord, I'm one of those 144000, right?"

God: "Of course you are my dear".

Other people:"...but you already saved more than 144000 before we were even born?"

God:" yeah well, just believe me OK?"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing that there are so many different interpretation. Religious people have such creative imaginations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m reading a fictional book series where a character in the first few books literally becomes the new god… then the later books take place a few hundred years later, and you see how the new god laid everything out for the people, and gave them books on how to prosper and all this valuable info… and STILL these idiots ended up forming various competing religions, full of BS!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, the trolley obviously can't fit under the bridge, so this seems like a mass murder/suicide scenario.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using the power of beyblade!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Me when I split the sea with a bayblade

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

What if the trolley can shrink when going under the bridge

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if they accept that I'm the creator of the situation but I still don't save them as I promised?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

You have a plan, that doesn't involve them. And it was all for good.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

No no no, doesn't stop there.

Then you created a business, run by your most....devout... followers, they'll manage the business.

You pay them to collect money for you, and um, teach them the ways and make sure they bring their families and friends in.

You tell them they are all horrible people who will suffer in eternity unless they worship you and thank you that they were born.

Then your managers, they meet with all your followers and ~~shake them down~~ tell them how important it is to fund the business.

It's a very complex thing really being the creator of the universe and having to have people start a business to fund..um...worshiping you....

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When a creator does it, the word is "ineffable". Just like how when I'm rich, I'll become eccentric.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck that. I'm eccentric now. What's a rich guy going to do about it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

For this to be more accurate you need to take the "God" out of the image entirely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Of course that is not something I could judge by myself. You will have to ask the people in the situation and see what they will answer of their own free will.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Substitute the trolley for a tornado, the tracks for homes, the deity killing randomly with said tornado, and the survivors thanking deity for their survival (and their neighbors’ deaths).

Not a good analogy? Of course it isn’t. God doesn’t exist, and if he does, he’s perfectly happy killing you and destroying your family for no reason whatsoever, and your neighbors will thank him for doing so.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Evil is a dumb term. The word they are looking for is "responsible".

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And then here comes Cormac McCarthy (RIP) to shit all over your idea of some benevolent god, to give you a real sense of how chaotically brutal the reality of life actually is, to question autonomy and the very notion of free-will, and to maybe, as a side-effect of literature, to make you think twice about everything you've assumed about the world.

Gonna miss that guy.

I don't know why the Nobel asswipes didn't give him the recognition he deserved.

My guess is that his work was too "American" for their tastes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In this situation, I could see it being done in order to announce that you have the power to alter reality on a whim, and really need people to get with the program.

So I would say it would depend on your other intentions, as if you have the creative power that is chested, you could easily bring someone back to life and place them in another scenario until they actually understand what you're trying to tell them.

I don't have enough information to ascertain whether or not the omnipotent being is evil or just a prankster.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do you have to "announce" your capabilities to beings you designed? Why do you have to onboard them to your "program" at all? If you truly are omnipotent, simply make beings that already know, and are already with the program. Assuming that is indeed what you want, why would you do anything else?

Are you throwing in extra steps for your own amusement? Just as a prank? Why? You're omniscient. You already know how it ends. What's amusing about it?

You are either toying with beings you created to be non-accepting and deliberately presenting conditions that won't convince them, or you're lacking one or both of omnipotence or omniscience.

An argument straight from the edgy teen atheist textbook, sure, but nonetheless one I have yet to see a compelling rebuttal for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But, by your argument, you do have enough evidence to rule out benevolence, no?

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