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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's impossible to stop obesity without destroying the entire sugar industry.

Flat out false, and I wish people would stop saying that. Including the part about grains.

Do you know what the fittest, lowest body fat, endurance athletes consume in mega doses? Sugar and carbs.

Is it an ideal diet? Not at all. But it's fuel, and it works when you need it to.

People are fat because they aren't justifying their caloric intake. They just shovel it in, even when they've exceeded the 1800 calories needed to just sit on their ass all day.

There is no obesity if you're active (excluding actual medical reasons like thyroid dysfunction or perscribed steroids).

Blaming "the industry" is as lazy as not wanting to be active.

Grain consumption, in case you weren't aware, is a keystone trait among the healthiest people in the world ("Blue Zones"). Grain consumption is also high in vegans, who happen to also have low (healthy) BMI.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

You're missing the point. We live in an environment that reinforces obesity, see also car-centric lifestyle which is an infrastructure problem. It's not like humans "wanted" to be active before, it's just that their activity was easily covered by work and travel without needing extra time and effort PLUS they may have already been at/near a caloric deficit just eating what was available to them.

Also I am not fully weened off sugar, but honestly I find a lot of things unpalatable due to the sugar content (like milk chocolate). I would be perfectly fine if sweet on its own wasn't a primary flavor anymore. That and it's at the point where you need to assume that there's a significant amount of sugar in basically everything. For example, Ireland classifies Subway's bread as cake due to the sugar content.

Sugar is cheap (and can be put in higher concentrations than in the past), and it makes sense to make unhealthy food cheap. I also wouldn't look at the opioid epidemic or similar problems and say "only personal problems here".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you know what the fittest, lowest body fat, endurance athletes consume in mega doses? Sugar and carbs.

I work a physical job 8 hours a day. Doing even more exercise on top of that would be a good way to get injured.

Still fat though, because I habitually over eat high calorie food and drink lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Hardest exercises are the fork put downs and table push aways