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Stolen land? Every single person alive today is on stolen land. The only difference is how recently their ancestors stole it.
Even the first nations of North America stole land from other tribes for a few millenia before the Europeans showed up and stole it all.
The world has never been, and will never be, a static place.
There are plenty of reasons to help out disadvantaged or oppressed groups, ownership of land just isn't one of them.
Contested ownership of land is one of the driving forces behind violent oppression, torture, internment without due process, ethnic cleansing etc etc.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being opposed to this stuff.
Plenty of our ancestors raped people but saying "every single person alive today has DNA from rape" is not a very good reason to support more rape now.
Who the Aborigines stole the land from? Or Polynesians?
Each other.
These people fought, they aren't some sort of saints that always got along peacefully for 60,000 years.
This part of history always gets ignored, but there are archeology studies showing it definitely happened.
Interesting theory. So Americans stole the land from Americans because there was a civil war? That's definitely a way to look at it.
You're grouping together people who were not together. The different tribes that existed were similar to the countries that exist today, though obviously a little less formal in nature.
It's not a civil war when two different tribes fought. Any more than it would be a civil war if Canada and the US fought.