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Beeper Mini Is Back (blog.beeper.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Group chat. You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s an android in the mix.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now that people bring up group chat, I realized that the opposite is also true. One apple in the mix will ruin all the videos in a group chat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Most Android phones use RCS now but iPhone doesn't, so with an iPhone in the chat it will also need to resort to sending SMS/MMS instead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Group chat. You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s ~~an android~~ SMS in the mix.

This is by Apple's design choice, not because Android.

Android can send as high a quality over SMS/MMS as the network will allow. iPhone can't.

In Apple's defense, you'd still lose all the iMessage features when SMS is involved, because what else are you going to do when one participant doesn't have iMessage? You'll fallback to the lowest common mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s ~~an android~~ SMS in the mix.

So anything that isn't iOS/iMessage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Whenever it has to fallback to SMS.

I mean there's really no other realistic way to enable a single app to utilize two very different communication "protocols" (in quotes, because SMS is only nominally a protocol).

I've always though iMessage was the approach to getting away from crappy SMS.

So when Signal did the same, I was very optimistic. It removed a barrier to entry for users by supporting SMS plus an encrypted method for connections that had Signal. And you could enable it to add a signature saying something like "Sent from Signal, this could be an encrypted conversation if you download Signal" or something like that. That was a great idea.

(weird, not sure why these are two comments and it looks like I replied to myself)