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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

School will never be as interesting as a phone. Your teacher will never be as entertaining as an influencer. Your textbooks will never be as entertaining as your feed. What families and teenagers have to understand is that education is a choice. If you want to learn, you’ll probably have to put your phone down for long periods of time to actively listen and learn. It’s difficult. It tires you out. It’ll frustrate you. But you will eventually learn.

Then again - when I look at home prices and inflation, I understand young people’s feelings of futility.

Good luck young people. I’m really rooting for you to figure this out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

As a former young person that came from poverty and is finally buying a house in a high cost of living area, go read "so good they can't ignore you" it might help with the figuring out!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

people learn things all the time despite phones existing. the issue is not solely being more entertaining. people need to find their learning meaningful and aligned with their own interests and goals. students don't, and so they go on their phones. go to a college classroom and you'll see people more engaged on average. still far from perfect, and that system is broken in many ways too, but people are at least studying something they chose and are presumably interested in.

"I'm really rooting for you to figure this out" rings hollow. we all need to be part of the solution. gen Z feels like it's carrying the expectation of fixing literally every societal problem right now and it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Your teacher will never be as entertaining as an influencer.

Those influencers are entertaining?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's just a feeling of futility - it's true phones can be distracting and offer more potential entertainment, and it's true learning can sometimes be a slog. At the same time, learning can be fun and engaging, and phones can offer access to a wealth of information (of highly varying quality, admittedly).

Concentrating too hard on mere academic success as gauged by metrics like school grades is undoubtedly discouraging for a student who only goes to school if they are told they must.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I look at home prices I know that school never has been good. People don't understand what they have to do to drive down prices.

Why can't Tiktok be used to find the best courses? There is no need for teachers to teach when Tiktok can do it better. Let teachers become mentors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tiktok cannot do it better. Tiktok is an app designed to hold attention. If you are more engaged by cat videos than geometry tiktok will not try and show you geometry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Tiktok algorithm can be limited to educational videos. Of course this requires cooperation from Tiktok or the introduction of a new app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

that would just be a new app and why would tiktok cooperate with that. There isn't as much money in that area and even if there was an educational app kids would go on tiktok instead of it