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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Too bad. You are not entitled to impose the costs of your bycicle on the rest of society. And the article is complete bollocks ur taxes that go to roads isnt for the impact u have on it its for the goods and services that travel those roads that u consume. The cost u impose on the road in terms of ware is neglegable compared to trucks etc that deliver goods and services to you.

If i can afford private health care why should my taxes go to funding people who cant? That is your exact argument why should u have to pay the cost of a functioning society when ur not using the things its providing. Its literaly i dont need X why should anyone else be given X. Its an argument based in nothing but personal greed. Do u wanna end up like america its the worlds greatest 3rd world country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Too bad. You are not entitled to impose the costs of your bycicle on the rest of society.

Those costs are negative. You think you're clever trying to throw my argument back at me, but me riding a bike HELPS society instead of hurting it!

Being butthurt does not entitle you to blatantly make up shit and reject objective reality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

How have i rejected objective reality? I dont think its clever i think it applies equally to u as it does to me what the difference?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You are not entitled to impose the costs of your bycicle on the rest of society.

Bikes are a net benefit to society, even when you ridiculously inflate the costs of cycling by including things that are really caused by cars such (as the safety risk) as costs of cycling.

the article is complete bollocks ur taxes that go to roads isnt for the impact u have on it its for the goods and services that travel those roads that u consume

It's both? Road maintenance is mostly paid for by council, which means its money comes from your rates bill (or your landlord's rates bill, and this indirectly out of your rent). The rest is paid for out of state government revenue, such as GST. Every vehicle that uses a road does damage to it. That damage increase with the fourth power of weight (specifically, axle weight), so a car does about 10,000 times the damage of a bike (2000 kg over 2 axles, compared to 100 kg for bike + rider over 1 "axle"). There's so much variety in trucks that it's difficult to pin down one number for them, but yes, they do a lot more than cars.

However, the thing is…the damage done by trucks is caused indirectly by both car users and cyclists, because both drivers and cyclists…buy things. So it's a neutral factor in this conversation. Not relevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If its a neutral factor then why didnt the article factor it out?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I don't really know what you mean.