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If Australian Sushi is cultural appropriation, I'd love to hear this person justify "New York Pizza".
New York Pizza is famous globally and recognised as something different to Italian style Pizza. Is that also cultural appropriation?
Chicago deep dish is another whole crazy thing too.
And Detroit style
I mean, that's just a pan pizza that happens to be square but I'll give it to you as a valid regional variant.
I will also direct you to the wikipedia entry for "California-style Pizza" which contains some wild pictures of potentially illegal pizzas.
Detroit style does have that very thick crust throughout the whole pie to differentiate itself from Chicago style
@Voyajer @Faceman2K23 Just wait until the world learns about Lithuanian-style sushi. (And yep, it's a thing that actually exists. It's a slice of herring with beetroot, wrapped in mashed potatoes and sesame seeds.)
As for pizza — the modern variety was apparently developed by Italian-American migrants, and then introduced back to Italy: https://youtu.be/7uJ_996KlM0?si=RSq3X0TqsIkVNAr5
Damn I want to try that now !
America is the land of stealing other foods and making it their own
culture is a thing that evolves over time and place, it shouldn't have to be preserved in the "correct" version if the origin is acknowledged.
these things exist outside of western culture too. I'd be surprised if all the types of dumplings weren't derivatives of each other.
wtf is new york pizza
It's what 90% of people picture when they think of pizza.
In the US maybe, not in the rest of the world.
They picture Italian pizza.
The deep pan type of pizza, where it's more of a cheese pie than a flat pizza.
That's Chicago deep dish. New York pizza is what we get here. The crust is thicker than Italian and is loaded with more toppings.
I dunno, I think it’s a pretty even split between NY and Italian these days, at least in Melbourne anyway.
Source: Stretched a lotta dough at a bunch of places back in the day.
New York pizza is an extra large pizza with big, floppy, greasy slices.
As others have said. You were describing Chicago pizza.
Having been to new york, the new york pizza is a piece of burnt corrugated cardboard pita bread spread with grease and thin red paper near-meat circles. It is not really all that edible. It is not similar to pizza here in Australia.
Well, seeing as how tomatoes are from the Americas, who is appropriating who.
Oh boy! That's a whole different can of worms:
isn't it curious how similar pizza is to Middle Eastern flat breads with toppings? And how Italians invented spaghetti shortly after Marco Polo returned from China where he would have been exposed to noodle dishes?