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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Your comment reminds me the cesspit of Xitter with the generative AI bros trying to conflate AI with assistive tech. They seriously argued that “artistically impaired” was a genuine disability and that they were entitled to generative AI training sets because it allowed them to draw. It was the most disingenuous argument, that they had a right to steal artists work, and leave them without income, to train their AI because they couldn't be bothered to rub a pen against some paper.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Artistically impaired, lol that made my day!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey! Artist here. I love drawing. My hands go numb within minutes and they shake more every year. I appreciate having a tool and medium that allows great artistic control despite these facts.

Now, if you're really butthurt about the training data you can use adobe's proprietary model. I for one think it's good that peasants have an open available tool that isn't owned by adobe, even if it was trained less proprietarily.

This anger about it reminds me of deviant art artists getting mad at each other for "copying my style"

And the fact that copywrite used to be about the general good, and promotion of creative works.

This world needs new artistic priorities. Pen and paper aren't losing their place, but new tech will lead to independent artists creating entire movies, games, and holodeck style experiences without looming overhead of whatever art oligarch holds the funding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Au contraire. Art oligarchs will own every single thing you make with AI. You're not being liberated, you're being further imprisoned, and they got you to cheer for the jailers.

ADD: remember, the final goal of the technocrats is not to make more artists. But to remove the artist from the art altogether.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Art oligarchs will own every single thing you make with AI.

No, where are you getting that from? I'm not even sure how to refute that, it's nonsensical.

There might be some AI services out there that try to use some sort of ToS to "claim" anything you generate using them, but any such service would be radioactive to a serious artist. Just use a different one, or run the AI locally yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I was literally diagnosed with "clumsy child syndrome" (we call it dyspraxia now) as a kid, in part because I'm artistically impaired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Fair point although there is a difference between "can't make a reasonable drawing with instruction at the level of one's classmates" and "never progressed beyond very basic drawing skills because you never practiced".