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Oh, it's dangerous and harmful all right : to their business model.
I think the big G is probably starting to get pretty nervous about self hosting. It absolutely is a threat to their existence. They are nothing without users.
There's a lot of us fed up with enshittification and every video that helps people break free of their capture is extremely dangerous to them. Seriously.
I agree with you and also YouTube’s real power is the network effect of literally everyone being there. I want so badly for something like Odysee to work but there’s just nothing there.
I think it may be less direct and it's troll companies and shitty AI.
Yeah, this is definitely a broken corporate system issue rather than a nefarious plot. Google takes down, demonitizes, and issues trikes for all kinds of bogus shit, their system is so incapable of nuance that "nuance" isn't even the right word anymore. There's no evil scheme to silence self hosting, just a horrible, miserably dysfunctional content moderation system that regularly trashes peoples livelihoods if it comes anywhere near prohibited topics.
If the mistake causes a big enough problem they cares about, like bad publicity via a large channel complaining, they'll probably fix it after a whole protracted mess of a situation. But if it doesn't cause a problem for them it doesn't get fixed. They just really suck at handling the scale of content they host.
And I might empathize that it's a hard thing to do, if they weren't an effective monopoly and a horrible company.
Of course they are, and you can stream the media or download it via many other means including youtube-dl.
They also still actively thwart users who are on a CG-NAT'ed connection so I ponder if the legality is now starting to bog them down.
I've downloaded all of the videos for a few channels. I know they will eventually get taken down, so I want to have backups ready for when that happens.
I know people who host content from YouTube on their servers, just in case it ever gets taken down from YouTube. Team FourStar had big problems with that, despite all their content being squarely under Fair Use, so I can't say I blame anyone for taking the precaution. It would be a social tragedy to lose public copies of DBZ Abridged.
Yes, I use jellyfin exclusively as a frontend for local mirrors of a handful YouTube channels.
Oh, that sounds awesome, can you point me in the right direction?
I use pinchflat and TubeArchivist to fetch content from YouTube.
While TubeArchivist is great on it's own when you fetch individual videos or channels that have their content organized in playlists, it has only a web UI which is OK on phone, but unusable on TV.
There is an add-on to synchronize TubeArchivist and jellyfin, but it doesn't translate too well between how TA and JF organize their data.
I use Pinchflat exclusively to download channels whose content's order does not necessarily matter. It nicely provides all the metadata to JF and even integrates sponsorblock as chapters into JF.
I have each of these services running as a docker container.
Thank you very much
You're most welcome
YouTube also "sells" movies afaik