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They are trying to kill normal desktops, it will be easier to transition everything online at megacorps.
That's why we need linux phones.
Honestly Graphene on desktop is best case scenario for me. Windows has too many ads and spying, Linux doesn't have enough support, MacOS hardware is too damn expensive and tightly-controlled.
What? It works on everything I try it on. Perfectly. The only stuff that doesn't work perfectly are peripherals, but that same lack of support would be true in Android. Or do you mean native applications? Because even though that's true, you can run more on Linux if you include Wine/Proton and stuff like Waydroid.
Sounds like you understand.
Almost never works outside of games.
Runs like Android 11 or some shit, so most apps don't work on there either.
My point is that Android is worse in terms of peripherals. And you're comparing Android with Linux which has better support.
Native applications are a decent point, but only if you keep it mobile instead of desktop usage.
A lot of Windows software works.
No idea. My point here is that Linux has more support because you can run more stuff on it because of easier emulation, compared to Android which is more limited and almost exclusively only supports Android apps.
But hey. I'm glad you enjoy Graphene in desktop mode. Just don't claim something that isn't true.
That hasn't been my experience but I don't have any objective data to back it up.
My point is that it doesn't. And it doesn't sound like you've even tried it.
Doesn't exist yet. But we'll find out soon.
I've done no such thing. The fact that you can theroetically do things is not the same as reality.
Oh okay, well if it works for you, I must be wrong.
I asked you to defend your claim.
Yes you may.
Yes, or LineageOS.
But with Android app support in Linux maybe some day I could get both worlds ...
(I need apps bcs society demands then, like banking, work stuff, etc.)
Oh yeah, good point
Android is Linux
This is a very umm ackshully βοΈπ€ response.
Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution. I'd be willing to bet money the above poster knows that too. You aren't giving us new information here.
Furthermore, I think you knew what the above user's point was: they want a more open phone and OS landscape where users are the boss of their own software and hardware, not tech giants.
Android is, in practical terms, its own thing, under Google's control, bundles all kinds of Google crap, and can't be replaced on most phones.
Well ackshually Android kernel nowadays is built from an upstream unmolested Linux kernel sources, straight from Torvalds' git repository.
And the rest is just the init system, which is not systemd so it's better by definition even though it's written in Java, and a display server written in Java, because there was no Wayland when Android development started.
Yes. The point is Linux doesn't solve the problem of megacorps and it's not like Linux on phones isn't something that hasn't been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.
You still aren't getting it.
That user already knows that Android is a heavily-forked version of Linux.
They already know that simply including some Linux code won't magically make everything pure and wonderful, because they know that we already have Linux code in Android, and as they point out, it isn't pure and wonderful.
Canonical didn't even try with Ubuntu Touch, they never released anything to market. They did a Kickstarter that raked in more than anything else ever had, then they gave up.
I'm not certain Mozilla ever had real devices on the market either.
Besides, just because there have been two failures in the past doesn't mean it's impossible, or that the above user is wrong for desiring a proper Linux smartphone.
Lmao, using Linux kernel ...