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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

wtf is this click bait

n a recent blog post, the Signal Foundation, responsible for managing Signal, detailed the operating costs for the first time, disclosing approximately $40 million for the current year, with projections reaching $50 million by 2025.

Using =/= Operating

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if they stop operating it, we won't be using it anymore.

it is likely bad phrasing, instead of intentional click bait.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If they open sourced all the server code, we could be helping them to operate it potentially, but they want to control the infrastructure, so I guess we'll all be using xmpp soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

so I guess we’ll all be using xmpp soon

of course... jabber is here for 25 years, but it will take over the world any minute now!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Are you saying that jabber is the ipv6 of messenger world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with you techbros is you can't imagine anything at smaller scales. But what you just said... Jabber is here for 25 years. That means it is good enough for tons of people. Not everybody needs a shiney new toy and if free software doesn't scale, then who cares. It can and will still work for those of us willing to share the burden and for those that can't, each one of me can accommodate at least a few such users and those that just won't... Fuck em. We don't have to capture every use case to be of value. I use jabber. I have plans to self host it. It works and has done so for 25 years. Furthermore AIM captured everything a chat needs to do, why do we keep reinventing this wheel when there are much more interesting problems that need to be solved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The problem with you, fanboys, is you don't understand that in context of replacing tool used on a global scale no one cares what you and 9 your friends are using, whether it is a good tool or not. To become global tool you need some critical mass and jabber doesn't have it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's unusual phrasing, but not wrong. It doesn't say specifically who is using, or will have to pay the $50M. You're only assuming it's about each of us individually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

exactly, I don't like the wording, but I do question people's reading abilities if they misinterpret that headline.

[People] Using Signal Will Soon Cost [Operators] $50 Million a Year.

How else would you read it? Each user paying $50M lol?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

two sides of the same coin, just a badly phrased sentence

[People] Using Signal Will Soon Cost [Operators] $50 Million a Year.

if you read it as each user paying $50M, maybe touch some grass

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Gamblers HATE this one not-side-of-the-coin-they-flipped!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago