this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2025
231 points (98.7% liked)

Canada

9401 readers
1540 users here now

What's going on Canada?

Related Communities

🍁 Meta

🗺️ Provinces / Territories

🏙️ Cities / Local Communities

Sorted alphabetically by city name.

🏒 SportsHockey

Football (NFL): incomplete

Football (CFL): incomplete

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer

💻 Schools / Universities

Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.

💵 Finance, Shopping, Sales

🗣️ Politics

🍁 Social / Culture

Rules

  1. Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
231
Can Canada still trust the U.S. for food safety? Ottawa professor says we should be skeptical (ottawacitizen.com)
submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It isn't ever useful to attack the mouthpiece instead of the point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Actually in this specific scenario, when we are trying to encourage and grow the buy Canadian movement, and move away from reliance on American, it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

If the information is sound it doesn't matter who is saying it. Hard stop, no arguments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Hard stop

This is rapidly becoming its own red flag.

It's like "literally" was in the 1900s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If the information is sound it doesn’t matter who is saying it

Who is saying the information isn't sound?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Ottawa Citizen is American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article?

I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.

Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

Not on this particular topic, but I also haven’t looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

Who is saying the information isn’t sound?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
  1. They're American owned and infiltrating Canadian culture and politics, that still doesn't mean the information isn't sound.
  2. I agreed with attacking the points, not the person. I never even reference the article in this sentence.
  3. Sources acceptable for my consumption, again doesn't mean I am insinuating that American owned media doesn't provide sound information.

So, who is saying the information isn't sound?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So, who is saying the information isn’t sound?

You are by attacking the source when you have no other alternative for what is in the article, and openly admit the article has no issues presenting facts.

Regardless of who owns the thing, it is still headquartered on Canadian soil, employing Canadians, and providing information that "real" Canadian sources aren't.

So give me another source, or shut up about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You are by attacking the source when you have no other alternative for what is in the article

lmao. what ever shall we do if the Ottawa Citizen didn't uniquely create this article? There is no known alternative for this article, so I suppose it's of utmost critical value?

This point is irrelevant, because if I can find an article from a better source, then the point is moot. And besides, you are insinuating that the Ottawa Citizen provides a service that is unique, and cannot be replicated, which is untrue.

Regardless of who owns the thing, it is still headquartered on Canadian soil, employing Canadians, and providing information that “real” Canadian sources aren’t.

  1. By going to the site, you are providing it clout that it is undeserving of. And when Canadian media is struggling, that's not a good thing.
  2. actually there is a conflict of interest, when the ownership is American. These kinds of media output articles more favourable to their owners, because that is literally their business model.
  3. Is it really headquartered on Canadian soil, employing Canadians, and providing real information? I'd rather take my chances with real Canadian owned and operated media.

So give me another source, or shut up about it.

Nah. You shut up about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

it is useful to know that there might be reasons besides the point that they’re making though… you can make all completely correct arguments and still be wrong in a wider context

why are they making the point? why do they care? what outcome are they trying to achieve? perhaps incentives are aligned, but perhaps not

spin exists, truth can still be misleading