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Just because I said something that you didn't agree with doesn't mean I was being "intellectually dishonest," and it's rude of you to imply that.
I'm not white, nor am I well off. Live in midsize city and never made more than $40K my entire career, and in fact made substantionaly less than that for most of it.
I lived through the 80's. Try living then and telling me that life is worse now. lol
You can keep your false righteous indignation. How can you claim to tell person in an El Salvador prison right now its "no worse off"? Please, explain that to me. How about a fired federal worker? Is it "no worse off" for them now they're unemployed?
I already told you I'm an older, well off, white man. Yes, I lived through the 80s too. How is that relevant at all? You're we should be happy now because we don't have 12% interest rates yet and stagflation is how we should be okay with trump destroying the world economy for likely the better part of the upcoming decade? Why stop your measure over 40 years ago, long before most of the people here were even born?
Why not tell interracial married couples "Try living in 1966 and not being able to get legally married to your spouse of a different race. lol"
Why not tell women and "Try living in 1918 and not being able to vote. lol"
He's not worth trying to debate. He's not bringing logic to the table. He's rooting for Trump because he thinks the Democrats have had a shitty attitude for awhile and wants Democrats to "get what they deserve." DJM here will burn it all down to ruin your day because somebody was a little snarky to him about a political opinion once.
I'm not burning anything down. I'm just having a conversation on Lemmy. Calm down
I don't think things are getting worse. You do. It's ok that we disagree. And I don't think any of this should add to the "hate" problem that some see on Lemmy. Which is the point of OP's post.
Hate isn't the answer, even if someone's mad about whatever political environment they are in.
So you refuse to defend your spoken position with anything concrete, even though I've asked you about multiple specific examples that contradict your position.
Well why would you? You seem to be just fine with the destruction of lives around you, even making supporting statements that you think its good these things are happening to these people. Why do you think that your positions don't deserve hateful responses? Lemmy doesn't have a "hate" problem. Today's leadership in the USA, and as a consequence, our society now does.
I agree with that statement. However, your chosen positions are steeped in hate yet you defer or ignore it. That wreaks of hypocrisy on your part, and points back to the intellectual dishonesty I accused you of earlier.
I've given you my opinion. I don't have to back anything up. I gave you my opinion. You gave me yours. I don't care enough to go deeper.
Hate's not the answer. But you do you, boo.
Nope. I don't hate anyone.
Don't sell yourself short. You've got apathy, malice or ignorance.
It very demonstrably is. Credit card debt is at record highs, home ownership is down, rents are a bigger proportion of salary than they've been in like a century, one in every five children in the US face food insecurity, incarceration is the highest in the world by far both in volume and per capita, people are going bankrupt with medical debt at record rates.
Just because you don't want to face up to it doesn't mean it's not happening.