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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The primary difference between skinny people and fat people is that fat people are simply hungrier. People have different set points that their bodies try desperately to stay at. And this set point is largely affected by the diet you experience in early childhood, and it's set for life.

Yes, obviously it is possible for a person with a fat set point to lower their weight through constant grinding effort and calorie counting. But that's not how human beings are supposed to have to live. Most skinny people don't have to count calories, they simply rely on their natural hunger levels to maintain their weight.

If a skinny person tries to eat past their set point, their body will actually fight them. If you try to eat past your set point, your body will force you to burn off calories in all sorts of ways. Your energy levels will soar, so you spend more time active. You'll experience insomnia, so you spend more time active and burning more calories.

If a fat person tries to lose weight just by counting calories, their body constantly fights them over it. Their energy levels decline so they'll burn less calories. They'll get tired earlier and find themselves sleeping for 10 hours as their body forces them to preserve calories.

Weight is not a moral issue. It is a simple health issue. Our modern food systems create unnatural foods that fuck up people's internal set points. Instead of your body trying to get you to maintain a healthy weight, it tries to maintain an unhealthy weight.

We see now through the invention of drugs like Ozempic that the whole idea of calorie counting and brute force willpower to maintain weight is a Medieval and barbaric approach to the problem. We've taken a medical problem and turned it into a moral failing. It's no different than how people used to ostracize, demonize, and banish those who caught leprosy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

But that’s not how human beings are supposed to have to live. Most skinny people don’t have to count calories, they simply rely on their natural hunger levels to maintain their weight.

We're supposed to be living in caves and gathering roots and berries. That ship sailed a long time ago and we have to deal with the reality of how we are living.

If a skinny person tries to eat past their set point, their body will actually fight them. If you try to eat past your set point, your body will force you to burn off calories in all sorts of ways. Your energy levels will soar, so you spend more time active. You’ll experience insomnia, so you spend more time active and burning more calories.

I've never experienced this. I can eat a ton if I choose to do so. The only thing "fighting" me is the capacity of my stomach. I don't get more energy or insomnia either. If anything I feel shitty afterwards.

Weight is not a moral issue.

Never said it was.

We see now through the invention of drugs like Ozempic that the whole idea of calorie counting and brute force willpower to maintain weight is a Medieval and barbaric approach to the problem. We’ve taken a medical problem and turned it into a moral failing. It’s no different than how people used to ostracize, demonize, and banish those who caught leprosy.

Of course drugs can help, but drugs require access to healthcare, which we've established is something not everyone has available to them. I am simply saying that for a lot of people being mindful of your diet works. Yes, it does suck sometimes not being able to eat all the things you want but in the long run you're going to be a lot better off by not dealing with the added health impact of obesity and all the problems that come with it. If someone has a health condition that prevents them from losing weight on a healthy diet I feel bad for them and they should seek treatment by whatever options are available to them but it is not the norm. All these posts from people like you make it sound completely hopeless when it's not. I'm not demonizing people who have problems with their weight, just that if they're not working on it they could be even if they are in a shitty situation. If they don't want to that's their decision. Life sucks and we all have to deal with it in whatever way works best for ourselves.